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Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    But in this case, isnt that beneficial ? If they dont update they cant be blocked at a later stage ? I presently have 4 of them including the new projector, 5 if you consider android phone casting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,336 ✭✭✭jj880


    Possibly. I have 2 older boxes (android 9) that are not receiving any more updates hooked up to projectors. We haven't seen the exact details for app blocking an android yet. For my main IPTV box on my TV I think I'll take my chances with a box that gets firmware updates until we hear more.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    If they don't update you're also open to security issues though? And other, legal, apps might stop being supported if you wanted to use them too?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nowso


    the google chromecast still got an update recently - just far 2 slow



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Very good piece that.

    Interesting that the US guy said that it's anything between $60 and $90 a month if you want to get every EPL game in the US.

    I know every game is available, but that's not cheap.

    They also talk a lot of sense when discussing the idea of the EPL taking it "in house", it won't be cheap for the consumer, would probably involve some sort of dynamic pricing and it's unlikely to happen anyway as the EPL with the current model prefer to get their money in bulk and let someone else worry about the delivery of the product.

    Also interesting about the Amazon Prime package a few years ago.

    Amazon were never interested in getting into sports media in the UK, all they wanted to do was use a few cheap EPL packages to sell more stuff during the post Christmas sales.

    Now that that cheap package was no longer available they were gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Until they can control piracy themselves, the EPL would be mad to take TV coverage in house. They would just be the ones taking a massive financial hit from the crime gangs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭wassie


    The podcast discussed this was unlikely as there is too much risk to the EPL & Club Owners associated with the subscriber model. By selling media rights, they effectively outsource this risk by receiving payment upfront. Also means they dont need to manage & fund productions costs - leave that to the experts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭wassie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Absolutely and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new one if it comes out.

    For a good few years it was my Plex server too, but there were some bugs which caused me to abandon plex server on the Shield, perhaps they were fixed I'm not sure but these I believe were Plex related nothing to do with the Shield. I might set it up again and see what happens.

    What I also like about the shield tv also is the Parental controls. When I'm finished with it I turn on the Restricted profile which allows the Boys to access apps I select only.

    It's cool that the Shield can access Steam, Xbox etc. The Boys don't have access to it because they'd be on it day and night , and would be knocking the **** out of eachother fighting over it but one has playstation and the other Lad has XBOX with restrictions and time limits, sometimes I use the XBOX subsctiption on the Shield but I don't really play computer games much.

    I really love the Shield, it's definitely the most amazing and reliable streaming device I've had over the last almost 10 years, the only streaming device really, who'd need anything else ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    What's mad about it as a device is not even that it's had so many updates and such a long life - it's still a snappy device. I've used chromecast with google tvs in other peoples houses and they were great when initially launched but are now slow as molasses. But the shield keeps plugging away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭ekkinak


    I got a Shield a few months ago and I'm very very happy with it

    The response from it compared to the Chinese boxes I was using previously - in fact there's no comparison.

    I've only cleared the cache on Tivimate once and that was just out of habit.

    RTE player quite snappy on it too, again no comparison to working the same app on the TV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Dont Be at It


    Is there any reason to make any changes yet for people using a ready-made sub app on a firestick?

    Or are we in wait and see how this plays out territory?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,336 ✭✭✭jj880


    Wait and see for the next while. Your app may not get blocked. Dont upgrade to another fire stick.

    If you really need a new device I'd consider 1 of the options posted here in the last few pages.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    For a good few years it was my Plex server too, but there were some bugs which caused me to abandon plex server on the Shield, perhaps they were fixed I'm not sure but these I believe were Plex related nothing to do with the Shield. I might set it up again and see what happens.

    I think that was related to an Android version update - it changed something about folder permissions and that broke Plex Server. I'm pretty sure it's fixed now, but it took a few weeks to be sorted at the time.

    I moved away from using the Shield as my Plex Server because of this and set up a homelab (with the *arr stack etc) but the Shield is still used pretty much every day. It'll be 9 years old next Feb and still going as strong as when it was new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Thanks for the info, hmmm, curious now about Plex, I might set it up on the Shield again tomorrow.

    Yes, it's amazing how they managed to keep it pretty much lag free considering it's age.

    I just did some searcning and saw a 5 month old reddit thread saying it's no different, still has intermittent issues and advise to use something else as a plex server.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    A short feature on the Law Show on BBC Radio 19 November. About what they call jail-broken Firesticks and more. Starts at around 19 minutes.

    https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/m002m9lr



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,550 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Really ??

    No football? 😛

    How did it exist pre Sky ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    With very little live coverage... As has been discussed here already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭hold my beer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 397 ✭✭Kilteragh


    With the announcement of the Paramount deal:

    As a TV viewer in the UK it would cost £76.96 per month to access all domestic and European football games from 2027. To do so, a viewer would need access to Sky Sports (Premier League, League Cup, EFL, Europa League, Conference League, £34.99), TNT Sports (Premier League and FA Cup, £30.99), Amazon Prime (Champions League, £8.99) and Paramount+ (Champions League, £4.99).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,012 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Is it really that important to see every single game in every single competition?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    That's not really the point, most people don't want to watch every single game that's on, but if you support a team and want to watch their matches that are rotated amongst the different channels.

    A subscription to only Sky will not allow you to watch all of Manchester United's matches (for example).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,895 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    It will for this season because we are only in 2 competitions 🫣😂

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    I see Paramount + in the UK will have all CL games bar one on Tuesday commencing from ‘27 season.

    Sky will have Europa & Conference games.

    TNT will have a PL game and FA Cup rights until ‘29.

    Obviously it remains to be seen how that will effect here but I’d imagine the aul bogey box will increase in use with customers requiring 4 packs to see all games live that’s available.

    Sky Sports
    TNT Sports
    Paramount +
    Amazon Prime.

    Crazy eh

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,452 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If only there was an option for a football fan to watch all the competitions at home.

    If the 4 broadcasters got together and worked out a 1 for all sub, otherwise dodgy boxes will still be a thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Cartels like that are illegal in the UK. Which would be relevant to the EPL when selling their rights.

    AI Overview

    Yes, cartels are illegal in the UK and are punished under both civil and criminal law. The primary legislation is the Competition Act 1998, which prohibits agreements that prevent, restrict, or distort competition, such as price-fixing or market sharing. The Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) is the main body responsible for enforcing these laws. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,336 ✭✭✭jj880


    So dodgy boxes are a vast criminal network and a sub including all matches would be a cartel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Ireland should be treated as an independent country and market with broadcast deals that are similar to that in other small EU countries. Lots of countries around the world that just have one broadcaster for the EPL. Would love Paramount to buy the complete rights for Ireland now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Ireland is one of the worst offenders when it comes to dodgy boxes. It would not be an attractive stand alone market for legitmate providers.



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