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The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    There was another good player a few years ago for Maghera, Michael Muldoon. Played Co Minor and u20. Is he abroad or still with them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 South of the Bann


    Didnt know he was abroad; dont think he has transferred to any other club as far as i am aware.

    What is the future for a club like Maghera; can they build from the bottom up in reserve or will their good players just transfer away?

    Odds are stacked against them with reserve rules in this county favoring the bigger clubs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭ipitydafool


    He was playing for Maghera in the Junior shield against Mountnugent there a few weeks ago. You have to admire the loyalty staying when your season essentially started in September. The Blackwater Gaels amalgamation would seem to be working given Munterconnaught having brought lads through that were central to them winning the Junior championship yesterday and as others have said have players on county minor team this year to bring through yet. Not sure are Maghera though, have got well beaten in their Division 3 Reserve championship games so far. Long term you would think they assimilate into Munterconnaught?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭piplip87


    The thing is with Maghera is any young lads family who moved there from Dublin over the past 20 or so years will drive the extra 5 minutes to Virginia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    Ballyboden knocked out the All Ireland Club champions yesterday. Eamon Reilly is doing well as manager. Ballyboden are not exactly minnows, but Dublin is very competitive. Na Fianna beat Kilmacud in the other semi.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    There were recent talks to assimilate (last two to three years) but they couldn’t agree to it. Both clubs had demands and didn’t seem to be able to meet halfway.


    it’s not just people from Dublin driving to Ramor. There are plenty of people living in Cavan years driving their kids from near Carnaross back to Virginia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    Coles, Monghans ,James McEnroe to name a few were from Maghera. Cole Transport the heart of Maghera.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Custard_Cream


    Local people will always know best , you would have to assume there is clearly a reason/history as to why they want to represent Ramor?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    It’s a bit like the Gaels twenty years ago. They used to pick up the best kids from the surrounding areas because they were successful. I remember Gaels lads used to mockingly call Drumalee their B team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 South of the Bann


    I heard somewhere that Ramor United is an amalgamation of Virginia Blues and Maghera Club; but the amalagmation split the Maghera club down the middle which meant some play with Ramior and some with Maghera.

    Not sure if this is 100% correct though maybe someone from Virginia or Maghera could confirm?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭ipitydafool


    Yes I believe this is the case though not sure if this is 100% correct but in the 1970's many clubs could amalgamate for senior championship- Redhills/Belturbet and Castlerahan/Munchies both won senior championship so did Ramor United under Virginia Blues and Maghera amalgamation but then they both ended up winning intermediate championships back to back and county board stipulated that two senior clubs couldn't amalgamate for the senior championship so there was a vote to united under one club, vote went through by slim majority in Maghera but the ones who voted against it continued with Maghera but seriously depleted the club and fair to say it has never recovered. Still not straighforward cos the ladies side of things it is one parish club Lurgan, they play games in both Ramor and Maghera pitches.

    Still Cavan king mentioned gaels/drumalee above, Maghera and Munchies pitches are as close to each other as terry coyle and drumalee's is and that is in a major town so when they about 5 minutes drive apart then long term I fail to see how Maghera dont just merge in with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭tazman06


    As far as I'm aware, there was a separate Lurgan club at the time too. It was an amalgamation of 3 clubs - Virginia, Lurgan, and Maghera. The club was to be called Ramor instead of the parish name of Lurgan as they wanted a name not associated with the original 3 clubs. Then as you say some of Maghera didn't want to and stayed on their own while the rest went on ahead with the amalgamation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 South of the Bann


    What geographical area did the former Lurgan GFC cover?

    Is there a separate country area other than Vrginia and Maghera?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    A winnable game for the Senior Club Champions in Ulster. At home to the Fermanagh champions. Derrygonnelly are into the final without the 3 Jones brothers who moved to Leitrim Gaels. They play Belleck in the final. Was it 2017 when Cavan Gaels got to the final, that a Cavan club won a game?

    Gowna should beat Kingscourt but will probaly be closer then 2 years ago. Colin Kelly has done a good job with Kingscourt. Peter Corrigan, Tully, Cian Shekelton, Dillon playing good stuff along with the main man Morris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,625 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    That vote must have been after 1977. The preceding decade had a run of amalgamations winning titles and getting to Finals. I remember the Annagh success, the only time Belturbet managed to get the title.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavan_Senior_Football_Championship

    https://www.anglocelt.ie/2020/10/07/footballs-heady-summer-of-73/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭tazman06


    Not full sure. If I were to guess, I'd imagine Maghera covered the area is still does currently, Virginia Blues were the town, and Lurgan maybe the rest of the parish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭ipitydafool


    Believe it was 1976 as Maghera won intermediate in 74 and Virginia Blue in 1975- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavan_Intermediate_Football_Championship

    Lurgan church and there used to be a Lurgan community centre, not sure if still there was on Ballyjamesduff road side of Virginia, to the right of Lisgrey house as you come from Cavan town, I assume this is the area Lurgan GFC covered though wasn't aware that club had existed too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Bduff1


    I hear a Cavan man starting midfield in the Macrory with St McCartens in Monaghan. Sounds promising.

    Seamus Clerkin, No doubt he has slipped under the radar in underage panels. Not sure of his club I would guess it would be Kill or Cootehill that vicinity.

    But maybe one to keep an eye on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    Conor McManus, Paudie Clifford, Brian Fenton didn't play Co Minor. A late developer can play more off the cuff then someone who has been in a Development panel from 14 or 15.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 breffnitightlips




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭celt262


    There are lots of Cavan lads playing midfield in school teams within Cavan and no doubt possibly in Longford aswell.

    Monaghan schools have 3 teams in the McRory which is surely a help to their county minor and u20 teams to have so many lads playing top level schools football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    3 is a lot for a County of their size but they seem to be able to do it. Donegal have 2 school teams in it and one of those teams is an amalgamation of 4 or 5 schools in West Donegal. This is their second year entering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭mogue77


    Karl O’Connell from Monaghan didn’t start playing Gaelic football until he was 17.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    True he was big into athletics. Brendan Rogers didn't play co Minor with Derry either.

    Cavan had players underage with Ray Cullivan who didn't push on at Senior. Cullivan was captain of u17 international rules team. Maybe too much hype or pressure .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Cullivan had injury troubles. A lot of these young lads get dragged pillar to post when they are exceptional at underage. It hits their career length.

    Towards the end of his career Cullivan could only play one game a week and could barely train between games. I remember Lavey had a game on a Saturday and then a Thursday evening and he had to pick between the two.

    Ronan Flanagan was another exceptional underage player on that underage Rules team and part of the reason he had a long career was because he delayed joining the club senior team which was a wise move by him & his parents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    Yeah Cullivan was playing a lot. Its a bit different now in that they can't play Senior club until 18 . And a 21 year old now isn't juggling both it and Senior county, along with Sigerson. I think Cullivan played his best football underage at midfield but probaly wasn't tall enough for Senior county midfield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Cavan_King



    He was a fantastic man to catch a ball but just wasn’t mobile enough.


    He walked from the panel on the day of a game one of the years too in the early noughties that he was named a sub for a game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭celt262


    He had a attitude problem alright though he was better than he was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭rrs


    I remember that. It was before they played Fermanagh. Tommy Carr was manager in 2010. 2012 was his last year on the panel at 24. He was one of the 6 dropped by Val Andrews along with Johnston, Lyng, Dermot Sheridan, Martin Cahill. There was someone else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Cavan_King




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