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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭wassie


    In fairness that all about protecting battery health.

    Tesla battery management system is very aggressive compared to competitors for good reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭derekreilly


    ***press release***

    Tesla is introducing a series of upgrades to its most popular vehicles - Model 3 and Model Y. These enhancements deliver greater range for Model 3 and Model Y, and provide improved functionality for Model 3.

    These new upgrades include:

    Model 3

    New Front Facing Camera

    A new front camera is now available, located in the front fascia. It offers drivers an expanded view of the surroundings on the center screen and is equipped with a fluid washer and integrated heating to prevent fogging and stay clean in all weather conditions.

    New Indicator Stalk

    A new precision-engineered indicator stalk ensures effortless control while driving.

    Higher range on all variants

    Upgraded battery packs with higher-density cells deliver more energy. Combined with segment-leading efficiency, this results in even greater real-world range for owners.

    Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive now offers 520km WLTP with 19” wheels (554km est. with standard 18” wheels), up from 513km previously.

    Model 3 Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive now offers 750 km WLTP, up from 702 km previously (with standard 18” wheels).

    Model 3 Long Range All-Wheel Drive now offers 716 km est. With 18” wheels, up from 678 km est. previously.

    Model 3 Performance now offers 580 km WLTP, up from 528 km previously.

    Model Y

    Higher range on Long Range All-Wheel Drive

    Upgraded battery packs with higher-density cells deliver more energy. Combined with segment-leading efficiency, this results in even greater real-world range for owners.

    Model Y Long Range All-Wheel Drive now offers 629 km WLTP, up from 586 km previously.

    Customers can access these upgrades today via Tesla’s online Design Studio, with pricing remaining unchanged.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,540 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    New Indicator Stalk

    A new precision-engineered indicator stalk ensures effortless control while driving.

    What a genius idea. Why didn't any other manufacturers think of putting an indicator stick on their cars 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,775 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Tesla have been, for a decade, very fast in getting 0-50% SOC and tapering off quite quickly.

    Even my old SR RWD with the LFP could charge at 170kW and reach 50% in about 12-15 minutes at the right conditions. That's another 150-175km. Not many other cheap EVs that can do that, or better yet, could do so 3-5 years ago!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Kudos for trying I say, but they should have offered a retrofit option for those who want both indicator and gear shift stalks. They lost sales by deleting them in the M3H.

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,540 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    100% lost sales. I wouldn't have considered one without it, indicators work and you shouldn't have to learn a new way just because Tesla wanted to save a few $$



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I have this great idea for a circular wheel…. But I need investors!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    what order dates get these upgrades for Irish cars?

    Is that a whole new battery?
    EV-database is showing a usable battery increase to 79kw from 75kw in the long range, and from 57 to 60kw in the RWD.

    I think these will be material improvements if the pricing remains competitive- albeit that front heated camera screams that every HW4 car up to now won’t fully support FSD were it ever to become a reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    You've been told before that Tesla upgrades the hardware of FSD cars for free once it is known that the older hardware isn't good enough. My own car got HW3 for free while still with its previous owner. And last year I got brand new heated cameras all around for free myself.

    Musk has already said that if HW3 cars are not good enough for unsupervised FSD, they will be upgraded to HW4 for free…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭September1


    I think charging times have not changed for worse in Tesla, it is just that other makers made so much progress in this area. Indeed 3-5 years ago Tesla was technological leader, it would be nice if they get their engineering together and regained this spot.

    So we should expect battery failures for all fast charging EVs now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,540 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Yea am M3 for me but my wife would be driving the car as well and no indicator gave been an even bigger issue for her.

    We'll have the Ioniq 5 paid off around June next year and I'll either be getting a new car to replace my old Ioniq 28 or I'll be taking a day unpaid for 12 months from work. Haven't decided yet what I want to do.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Really? 🤔

    It's not no indicators, just a slightly different way of operating the indicators.

    I like it personally, but am part of the modern console generation for whom buttons and screens are the standard way of life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    4 day week for the win.

    But, i'd just go the retro-fit route if I bought a M3H. I know many wouldn't even be aware it was possible to do it. Short sighted of Tesla there.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    You're not wrong. Tesla had the fastest charging in the business 5 years ago, but others have since caught up and some recent Chinese cars have well and truly overtaken them

    That said, several people in here have already outlined why charging any faster than Tesla did 5 years ago does not really add much value to most people, except those who can't normally charge at home or at work. And for those people, a full EV in Ireland wouldn't really be a great choice of car as no matter how fast it can charge, it costs as much as fossil fuel. That is the biggest pro of an EV gone

    I pay about €0.01 per km in fuel almost all of the time. Which is about 90-95% cheaper than fossil fuel. Imagine a liter of petrol or diesel for €0.10 and someone coming to your home to fill your car for you? 😀

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Looks like you got the sales completely wrong. Again. Record Q3 deliveries, almost half a million

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭September1


    In my, perhaps misguided opinion, Tesla has one of best public charging prices in Ireland and it is still one of leaders in terms of EV efficiency. If you consider recent growth in charging location this could be a vehicle that could break into market for people who can only charge in public. Even though I charge mostly at home and work I see two personal advantages. One is more public charging with higher demand and other is better resale value when I sell car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,904 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Tax credits expired last week. EU sales still down 40 percent. US sales show suspicious presale activity.

    Only thing can read is that Q4 will most likely be a mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    They already did. Not in Ireland but in the rest of the world! The off peak rate in Belgium or the Netherlands is something like 31c/kWh. Which is barely any more than people over there pay at home. And of course there are fast chargers like Ionity, FastNed and indeed Tesla superchargers everywhere, all reliable and with no waiting

    Different ballgame. You could easily own an EV over there with no home charging

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭September1


    Exactly. So basically having a fast charging modern batteries would be super beneficial in Europe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Not for most people but yes for people who have no home or work charging, any increase in charging speed is beneficial for sure!

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭September1


    I think for all people, even someone who never ever DC chargers would benefit from higher resale value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    are the new battery/spec cars available in Ireland for orders from today, or is this something upcoming?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    they are already some updates on the website today as you can see the stalks and front camera.

    I’ve no idea what the previous WLPT figures where to check against the figures on display there currently but according to many, they have increased on the ie site which means it’s the newer batteries alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,770 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Some people are very set in their ways. I drove the current Model 3 performance recently without indicator stalks and without gear selector and it took me just a minute to get used to it.

    Silly from Tesla though that they do not realise that most people are very conservative. It sure has cost them sales, and what was the saving in removing the stalk, like $50 per car? Mad decision.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’m a lover of the minimalistic interior and simple design, in all aspects, not just cars, it’s one the reasons I favor a Tesla over other cars currently but the indicator stalk removal was a step too far for me.

    The gear selector on screen is no problem. It’s like swapping from a leaf to a VW, different gear selector locations but same principles. plus the auto shift worked perfectly in the time I used it, 3 point turns, car parks etc

    Just the stalk killed it for me personally.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭John arse




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