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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Signed up to bwg and at end said 12 month contract and min 12 month contract



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    Ive got my head around the system a bit , forecast and prediction , so may eventually consider them

    T+Cs differ from the faq on the calculation of the first estimated payment. Chat told me the faq is correct which isn't great like

    Id need a better handle on these estimates before id consider them

    Also there's a load of clauses in the t+c s that need careful study

    It reads like it's setup to trigger higher charges for the unsuspecting customer



  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I did exactly that and moved to EI, like yourself I used their dashboard quite a lot, EI have their own app and it's also very good, the only data missing from theirs is your export, however I can find that info on esbnetworks site



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Lester_Burnham


    There's a thread on Reddit where a BG switcher was charged the exit fee in their final bill (must have jumped immediately last Friday). He called them and they said it was an error and fixed it. They also said it had been applied "in error" to a number of accounts. So check your final bills.



  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Oof, that's their 2nd increase this year, April being the first.

    EI have the dominant market share & will only increase that again this winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭kil


    Flogas BWG Rate just emailed a 5% increase on unit rates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭bren2001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭bliger


    Dear BWG Affinity member,

    The CRU only recently finalised details of the electricity network cost changes approved by them which will be implemented by all Energy suppliers from October 1st 2025, to Sept 30th 2026.  Unfortunately, while the PSO charges are reducing, network charges are increasing this year and will impact your unit rates and standing charge from October 17th. While the “energy” element of your rate with us is fixed for 18 months the regulated network charges (non-energy) are variable and are adjusted annually in line with CRU approved changes. We have outlined the increases in the table below: 

     

    The net impact of the changes above will mean a 5% increase in your overall unit rates for the remainder of your contract, which means an approx.  €4.60 per month increase (excluding VAT, based on CRU average annual usage of 4200 kWh’s). 

    While we appreciate this is unwelcome news, please be assured that we have worked hard to minimise the impact of these increases and other costs of doing business on your affinity rate. The increase is less than the 7% increase applied to our variable customers in August and considerably less than the double-digit increases* of some other suppliers announced in recent weeks. This increase will be partially offset by the reduced PSO levy which is reducing by €1.29 per month from October 1st. 

    If you have any concerns and would like to talk to one of our advisors, please call us on 041  2149500 or email us at customersupport@flogas .ie. 

    Thank you for your ongoing business,

    The Flogas Team


    *Bord Gais Energy increasing by 13.5% from October 14th
    *Energia increasing by 12% from October 9th  
     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Bensimp


    Same

    However I am confused it says

    While the “energy” element of your rate with us is fixed for 18 months the regulated network charges (non-energy) are variable and are adjusted annually in line with CRU approved changes

    The net impact of the changes above will mean a 5% increase in your overall unit rates for the remainder of your contract, which means an approx.  €4.60 per month increase (excluding VAT, based on CRU average annual usage of 4200 kWh’s). 

    If it is energy fixed, how is the unit rate going up?

    My understanding of "Energy fixed" is that the rate is locked in ?

    Or am I reading this all wrong?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Bensimp


    Dear BWG Affinity member,


    The CRU only recently finalised details of the electricity network cost changes approved by them which will be implemented by all Energy suppliers from October 1st 2025, to Sept 30th 2026.  Unfortunately, while the PSO charges are reducing, network charges are increasing this year and will impact your unit rates and standing charge from October 17th. While the “energy” element of your rate with us is fixed for 18 months the regulated network charges (non-energy) are variable and are adjusted annually in line with CRU approved changes. We have outlined the increases in the table below: 

     

    The net impact of the changes above will mean a 5% increase in your overall unit rates for the remainder of your contract, which means an approx.  €4.60 per month increase (excluding VAT, based on CRU average annual usage of 4200 kWh’s). 


    While we appreciate this is unwelcome news, please be assured that we have worked hard to minimise the impact of these increases and other costs of doing business on your affinity rate. The increase is less than the 7% increase applied to our variable customers in August and considerably less than the double-digit increases* of some other suppliers announced in recent weeks. This increase will be partially offset by the reduced PSO levy which is reducing by €1.29 per month from October 1st. 



    If you have any concerns and would like to talk to one of our advisors, please call us on 041  2149500 or email us at customersupport@flogas .ie. 


    Thank you for your ongoing business,

    The Flogas Team


    *Bord Gais Energy increasing by 13.5% from October 14th
    *Energia increasing by 12% from October 9th  
     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭bren2001


    @DayInTheBog told ye



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭in2dark


    Just UNREAL!!!

    All suppliers increase their rates, and even before those hikes Ireland was the MOST expensive in Electricity rates in EU.

    At the same time the government says they dont see reason for support as the market has stabilised...

    Wonder who is taking the pi$$



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭bren2001


    The communication from FloGas was really poor on this. When people signed up in April (I think that's when the new deal came out?) the wording on the site was that the rate is variable. There were very specific conditions for a rate increase, specifically, regulated network charges. They effectively reserved the right to up the charges in line with these charges.

    I don't think it was clear. It was caught on this thread and a number of us called up. I thought it was quite misleading tbh. I do wonder how the CRU would interpret it tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭ben36


    Very efficient from electric Ireland.Switched from Bord Gais electric only plan on Tuesday.welcome letter and account setup on Thursday and €75 credit in my account this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It would seem that it's an increase due to the CRU increase in charges rather than an increase due to every costs.

    The way I read it is that the portion of the unit rate and standing charge that is energy related is staying the same

    I personally thought that when we signed up for a fixed rate that the rate that we paid to flogas for our electricity was fixed, but apparently this is not the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Bensimp


    I have an email from them stating it is fixed and in Bold says the rates are" Energy Fixed"

    Very misleading if it is not fixed but I'll ring them and send them copy of the email

    I am emailing as the BWG Affinity Offer is now available for renewal.

    I have attached the rates below, I will make you aware this contract is an 18-month contract, which would end on 30/09/2026 in line with all other BWG contracts.

    As you are on a 24-hour meter, I have attached the applicable rates below.

     Unit Rate – 24.03 inc VAT

    Annual Standing Charge - €257.38 inc VAT

     I will also make you aware the rates above are energy fixed, this in turn means the standing charge/PSO Levy may be adjusted for regulatory charge changes throughout the contract term.

    If you wish to renew, you can respond to this email and I will action accordingly, you will also receive a link with two free tickets to Emerald Park once your 14-day cooling off period ends.

    Kind Regards,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    Dont recall seeing anything in the original fixed rate agreement with Flogas about an "energy" and "non energy" component of the unit rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    I knew it was only energy costs that were fixed at the time of changing

    Only consolation is that these network charges are hitting all suppliers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭GalwayGaillimh


    Yeah got the email as well it's a bit Irish that the so called fixed rate we signed up for can be increased...

    Si Deus Nobiscum Qui Contra Nos



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭John arse


    What are the new rates then folks? 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭bren2001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Darby_321


    Checked emails i had from them and seen this at the bottom when they confirmed my plan:

    Please note this is a Fixed Energy contract meaning that the energy component of the unit rate and standing charge are fixed for the duration of the contract, but regulated pass-through charges may change. If we need to adjust these rates because of regulated charge changes, we will write to you 30 days in advance of the change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭blinking




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Bensimp


    They never stated what the energy component percentage is of the unit rate and standing charge is made of though? My understanding of the unit rate is that the unit rate for the electricity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭John arse


    I think this is what's known as a "Grey Area"???😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭ben36




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    I got €100 credit from EI FWIW - I didn't expect any!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭epopnomis


    I wonder if this is deemed an excuse to break the contract with Flogas?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭stoves1


    Switch from Bord Gais to Electric Ireland contract up next month.

    Can it be confirmed if i sign up to electric ireland this evening that i dont have to pay the €50 exit fee to ie bord gais, contract up middle of october please?



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