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The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭TheGadfly


    Yes, The Westmeath forum on the Hogan Stand. He seems well got down there. Obviously, they wouldn't be privy to some of the carry on that we all know about in Cavan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 breffnitightlips


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    Intermediate draw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 breffnitightlips


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    junior draw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I watched our county U16s take a hammering off Meath in Oldcastle yesterday. This is the team that McCabe allowed the “Dads & Lads” coaching approach with it and it showed.

    A complete **** show from start to finish - the amount of substitutions in the first half showed that.

    Yet we’re about to let him waltz into the senior, and perhaps U20, jobs. The one saving grace is because he runs Breffni he might actually get them to spend a bit of money on actual coaching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭rrs


    Budget will be tight with the Breffni vanity project.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Custard_Cream


    Lads after watching today's game it's so obvious Kerry used the Cavan game as a tool to try come to Dublin/Croker under the radar..

    Fair play though.. I loved that bravery they had from the get go .. I knew from the parade Kerry were completely psyched up for it ....

    Secretly delighted for McGuiness, he's an absolute bully... He came down to brefni and completely disrespected our novice manager who's learning his trade..... Well Jack o Connor sent him back in his box today ....

    What goes around comes around ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Not when the man who decides the budget and everything else is in charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭mylestheslasher


    So your hypothesis is that Kerry intentionally played poorly so that they could get to the all Ireland by other teams taking them for granted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭TheGadfly


    The first paragraph in your post is nonsense. The rest perfect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭rrs


    Long range shooters are vital with the new rules. Donegal didnt get any 2 pointers and left it very late before they even tried any. Kerry got 5 which is an extra 5 points. Kerry with the age profile should be capble of putting back to back All Irelands.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Did Cavstream only show one game last weekend? Hoping they’ll show a few this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Just copped that. I thought there was some on but appears not. Bit strange to start and then have a blank weekend. Give all the lads coming home from America another week and just start all next week!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds


    Yeah or start them this weekend rather than last weekend. Read an article there about all the club championships in Ulster and the journalist said a bit strange when Cavan final is, a full month before the winner out in Ulster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭rrs


    The league is rushed off too quick. Most games played without players



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I’ve heard some mention that the divisions should be split in two, like they do at say underage minor, and teams play every two weeks. Week on week is too much.

    I’ll go back to it over and over again. We’ve too many clubs. Look at underage football. You’ve teams amalgamating all over the place yet their level is still only Division 3 or 4. In some cases these are amalgamations of 3 or 4 clubs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    Running 12 games over 6 months might be a bit much. Nothing wrong with game every week or thereabouts. There's a couple of breaks in there anyway as it is. Maybe stretch it out with another break or two, allow county players to play especially if they're not in match day panels or getting game time. But you want lads playing regularly and no harm your club seconds filling in and getting exposed to a higher level and playing plenty of football in their own grade too.

    You need to be careful what you wish for sometimes. Longer breaks will just mean dogging lads with more training sessions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    But it’s not twelve games in six months. The league starts end of March and ends by July so it’s more like 12 games across 3 months.

    You also talk about club seconds. A lot of clubs are having lads playing both senior and junior. Playing numbers are falling across the board as a club player now basically has to act like a county senior did a decade ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    It would be dragged out 6 months if played every two weeks as you suggested.

    I've never heard of a player quitting because he didn't like playing. I know a lot of Junior players fed up with the ridiculous commitment required from ALL playing members in some clubs now. It's lack of games is the killer for non elites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Thunderbirds


    Reserves also expected to play on a Sunday. Not fair on them while first team players get their Saturday night. Go back to double headers wherever possible and treat the junior b with some respect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    No it wouldn’t. I suggested split the divisions into two, A and B groupings, so you play half the teams.

    The problem is there’s plenty of players being overrun with games too. It’s finding a happy medium.

    Post edited by Cavan_King on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 bearonthesquare


    Why the County Board Wants Our GDM as Manager:

    • Cost-effective: He’s a cheap option, which seems to be the primary concern.
    • Avoids awkward questions: His appointment helps the CB sidestep embarrassment over last year’s debacle against Westmeath and deflects scrutiny over their failure to properly manage the GDM's involvement with another county.
    • Covers past mismanagement: It’s a convenient way to paper over years of reckless handling of the underage development squads. (Ulster advertising for an understudy speaks volumes — best of luck to whoever signs up for that mess.)
    • Low ambition, clearly signalled: Asking clubs to nominate a manager highlights just how limited our ambition is. Compare that to Louth under Peter Fitzpatrick, who only wanted the very best. Meanwhile, we go for what’s convenient — just look at the interview panel = convenient.

    Concerns with the Second Candidate:

    • Lacks recent inter-county experience.
    • Uncertain player buy-in: Will the whole squad respond to him?
    • Limited track record: Success at junior level doesn’t always translate to senior success. His brief stint with Kingscourt and in Longford didn’t exactly inspire confidence.

    We seriously need to grow up as a county. If we want to compete at the highest level, we need to widen the net, think bigger, and target the best candidates available — not just the easiest ones to appoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    Saturday games make more sense but plenty of managers now having Sunday morning training sessions if free day so it's not just a fixture issue.

    Don't see the problem you're fixing splitting the division. 6 league games simply not enough football. And 2 week break not an unwind either. Managers will just add more training sessions, and an extended session on the Sunday morning for good measure. It's more games lads want.

    Club players "having to act like a county player a decade ago" has nothing to do with fixtures. There's only one obligation, the club. Not like players trying to juggle IC, colleges, IC U20 plus club. Where the strain and drop off is coming from is the ridiculous demands put on ordinary club players by ultra professional club setups. Expected to act and train like an IC player for limited playing time and warming the bench when it gets to the hot end of the championships.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭rrs


    Tyrone don't start their League until May. They play regional Cup competition as a warm up before the league. I think County players are available for the majority if not all the fixtures in their league. The league up there dictates where a team plays the following year in the championship.

    With the split season the league doesn't need to be starting in March in Cavan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King



    The lads that are playing every week don’t want more games. It’s too much.

    You go out and play a game and take a few hits and answer me then that club teams having conditioning like county teams from ten years ago has nothing to do with fixtures?

    The harder the hits, the more recovery time needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    Kerry have regional league and championship competitions too on top of their main league, club and county championships.

    It's a format I like. For us to decrease the number of teams in our main league competition, we'd need to introduce extra competitions for club matches during IC season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    How would you organise parishes into regional competitions in Cavan if you were to do it for pre league and championship competitions?

    My stab at it.

    WEST: Shannon Gaels, Swanlinbar, Corlough, Templeport, Kildallan, Drumlane, Killeshandra, Arva, Cornafean, Gowna

    NORTH: Belturbet, Redhills, Drung, Kill, Cootehill, Drumgoon, Drumalee, Butlersbridge, Ballyhaise, Cavan Gaels

    SOUTH: Killygarry, Ballinagh, Denn, Lacken, Mullahoran, Ballymachugh, Mountnugent, Castlerahan, Crosserlough, Lavey

    EAST: Munterconnacht, Maghera, Cuchullains, Ramor, Killinkere, Laragh, Knockbride, Shercock, Baileborough, Kingscourt

    Tricky enough. Maybe you could change Gowna to south, Killygarry to north and Belturbet to west. Corlough and Maghera would struggle to fit in too, maybe a temporary amalgamation with a neighbour for the warm up competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Why our GDM will be the next county manager: because he runs everything in Breffni.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭rrs


    It would be something like that maybe a few teams pulled around.

    They released the Ulster Club fixtures. Cavan Champions play the Fermanagh winners at Senior and Intermediate at home on November 8/9th . Junior champions play the Down winners..

    Senior Football

    Preliminary Round – November 1/2

    Derry v Antrim

    Quarter-finals – November 8/9

    (1) Cavan v Fermanagh

    (2) Tyrone v Down

    (3) Monaghan v Donegal

    (4) Armagh v Derry/Antrim

    Semi-finals – November 22/23
    1 v 2

    3 v 4

    Final – December 6/7

    Intermediate Football

    Preliminary Round – November 1/2

    Derry v Antrim

    Quarter-finals – November 8/9

    (1) Cavan v Fermanagh

    (2) Tyrone v Down

    (3) Monaghan v Donegal

    (4) Armagh v Derry/Antrim

    Semi-finals – November 22/23

    1 v 2

    3 v 4

    Final – December 6/7

    Junior Football

    Preliminary Round – October 25/26

    Cavan v Down

    Quarter-finals – November 1/2

    (1) Fermanagh v Antrim

    (2) Derry v Tyrone

    (3) Monaghan v Donegal

    (4) Armagh v Cavan/Down

    Semi-finals – November 15/16

    1 v 2

    3 v 4

    Final – November 22/23



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭etuzyuk


    Would be nice to see a Cavan team make inroads in that competition.

    Championship starts tonight with a local derby. You'd feel the champions should win this but they're unsettled ATM and quite a bit off their very best. They'll be looking to get some players back to full fitness and grow into this competition. Great opportunity for Castlerahan to ambush them and get off to a good start themselves.

    Lady luck can be huge in this format especially if you lose and she turns against you in the fixture draw.



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