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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I really thought we win this year but we found a way not to. Im still raw with that performance on Sunday. I was nervous of the final but we will have more nerves in the future if Cork ever get back. We were underdogs in 2021 and we were destroyed. We were slight favourites in 2024 and were beaten when it mattered. We were massive favourites this year and we never turned up in the second half. I can't explain it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭lukin


    A lot of the reason why we haven't won an AI in 21 years is because we have never had a coach or selectors that were tactically aware. Meyler, Kingston and now Pat Ryan never made tactical adjustments during games when we were in trouble.

    It happened again last Sunday. Our sideline was completely outfoxed by Liam Cahill. It's absolutely stupid. To go hitting long balls into a full-forward line when the opposition have an extra man back there is crazy. Cahill must be laughing his head off at us in private.

    Maybe it's a Cork arrogance thing that we don't believe we should have to bother with tactics, we will just outhurl the opposition. I don't know but it's got to change or else the long wait for an AI will continue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    Nasty post even by your standards!

    Jesus like give them a bloody break its in the name "supporter" through wins and losses!

    They got a lot wrong in sunday they will be hurting no need to put the knife in!

    If they are failures then what does that make you what have you achieved in your life?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭lukin


    Some very interesting posts on here;

    https://tfk.thefreekick.com/t/all-ireland-hurling-final-2025-tipps-29th/39966/1347

    There's too much too read but I read a bit of it and it really illustrates how much our sideline screwed up big time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    The truth hurts and I'm saying it as Cork fan. Being nice to the players who have not performed is not in my nature. I am involved with training a club hurling team myself and one think for sure is if my team performed like that they be told it afterwards and let know too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Old_-_School


    The guy with the Cork Champions 2025 tattoo is hoping for a win in 2035 anyways!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Things like that just did not help players. Imagine looking at that. Adds little pressure. Plus it labels us as nothing but utter arrogant. No question we have a bandwagon small support who have no clue

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    It's an innocent enough type of arrogance though. As opposed to anything nasty like for instance Conor McGregor type attitude. I'm not from Cork, but I was at the Cork Dublin game with my young fellow. And the Cork people were so nice to him (he had his Dublin jersey on). Great banter, and in a lovely childish way. And all of the Cork people around me in the Davin stand on Sunday were so down to earth. Very little frustrations at the ref. Took it all on the chin, and shook hands to congratulate the Tipp fans that were gone ecstatic.

    I spoke to a few Cork fans outside Croke Park before the match. And they were very nervous that Tipp had such long odds. And were being written off. They were not confident at all. Shure people in my own home county of Mayo were gone mad painting cows and sheep and cars some years ago. It's not really arrogance. It's more a bit of attention seeking. Same with the tattoo guy. He was looking for a bit of attention, and he got it. And I'm sure he had a right auld laugh about it with him mates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    @FintanMcluskey That's what i want to hear! Next time we show up at an all Ireland final i want us written off by all and sundry. Galway have left an awful lot of all Irelands slip away themselves in both codes over the years.

    You can have all the skill, tactics and gameplans in the world, but it's meaningless if the players haven't the fight and the heart for the battle on all Ireland final day. Ringy, Jack Lynch and Teddy Mac must be turning in their graves at what the county they gave their blood sweat and tears for has turned into!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    You know something this team was a few 50/50 refereeing calls going in their favour from winning an all Ireland last year. Is there another big push in them or has last Sunday broken them? Time will tell on that i guess.

    The whole do it for Hoggie thing was quite possibly another distraction that we all got caught up in as well. Jimmy Brohan in the 50's was one of Cork's finest ever hurlers. Barry Egan in the 90's was a fine player as well but neither of them won any senior all Ireland medal with Cork.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,048 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Seems fair enough analysis by him.

    Cork blew it big time.

    The management didnt change tactics and the players wilted in the second half.

    It beggars belief that they played the same tactic of the long ball for the whole match when it was evident early on that it wasnt working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 jeep-reflex


    Gloating? Really?

    "What do you do if you're Pat Ryan here now? Do you jump ship? I don't think you jump ship. I think he's done an exceptional job. Their performance was still among the best of any county this year."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭sasol


    Have a look at the vitriol that professional Cork media pundit Dan Casey has put up on social media about other GAA counties , whilst blowing up Cork and tell me if you think it is innocent?

    It is toxic.

    I have no doubt that he does not represent the good hurling folk of Cork, but when you hear that rubbish it very much lends itself to other counties disliking Cork GAA teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Cork teams and people in general have always been disliked so it's no fly off my back! I never even heard of this Dan Casey either. There's been plenty of nasty stuff said about Cork especially back during the time of the strikes. Things just seem to be more toxic now in these social media times.

    Anyway the Cork footballers in the mid to late 00's had some bad and humiliating outings in Croke Park. They stuck at it though and they won an all Ireland in 2010. This team can do the same if they man up and find that testicular fortitude needed for the big occasion.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I'll say this about Pat Ryan of all our managers post John Allen he's been my favourite. In terms of silverware he's been our most successful manager post 2005 as well but alas the big one is still missing. The people you have working in the background are just as vital and important.

    @windy shepard henderson said before that Clare wouldn't have won that all Ireland in 2013 without Paul Kinnerk working behind the scenes with the poison dwarf himself Crazy Davy Fitzgerald.🤣 We need our own Paul Kinnerk and if he ain't even from Cork then so be it.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    One thing I will say about Cork is they have had some absolute gentleman as managers, whether it be Pat Ryan, Kieran Kingston, JBM, a lot of county managers could learn from their behavior and grace. As a Waterford man, I was extremely embarrassed by some of Davy Fitz antics when he was in charge of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,048 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Speaking of the strike Joe Brolly has piped up and had a right go at Donal Og Cusack and a few others.

    I agree with Brolly for the first 90 seconds but then as usual he goes off the rails.

    2 very unlikeable chaps Brolly and Cusack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭El Vino


    Cork are far from hated throughout the country. They bring craic and colour and travel in huge numbers. Sure there is a bit of arrogance but it is usually good natured and until Cody they led the roll of honour so maybe some of it was deserved. I really hope the huge number of young people that followed Cork this year aren't disheartened by Sunday. Every county has a small number of fans you would be ashamed of including my own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Brolly is a barrister. One of the key skills for any barrister is to act like they are angry/outraged/surprised whatever.

    Most of the time he doesn't believe what he is saying but he knows it generates traffic and clicks.

    On a separate note spare a thought for Pat Ryan this week. I never had to endure what he has gone through this year but I dealt with something in the same ball park.

    I'd imagine but I don't know that he is likely to be running on fumes. One thing I've taken from listening to various inter county managers is how all consuming the role is.

    How he has managed to keep going is a bit of a mystery. Hope the man can find a bit of time to process everything and switch off for a while.

    I'd agree with Dick Phelan, Jimmy Barry, Kingston and Pat Ryan came across as gents. Cahill in fairness to him is a decent sort. I met him the weekend he switched from Waterford to Tipp and I wished him well.

    Hard to blame a man for going home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3GOhUYAYkkspGAyK7oApOc?si=gX4tNvwcQW-8aTxKty8QzQ&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A0D7EXr3ekAwJEaTUAofbPU

    Brolly goes on to say he believes cork don’t have the strength of character required to win at the higher level



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,481 ✭✭✭giveitholly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Kieran Shannon seems to have pulled no punches on Pat Ryan and the Cork management in the Examiner. The players left him down pretty bad in that second half as well though.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Sorry to say Limerick totally out hurled Cork in 2021. They had 3 20 on the board at HT and were playing out time in the second half. Granted they were physical - no more no less than Tipp on Sunday. I would say Limerick 18-23 were every bit as skillful as Tipp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox


    He is a paid analyst on a 2FM sports programme. He would have been asked about the All Ireland involving Cork and Tipp, same as if it were Clare and Kilkenny. Don't be looking for perceived digs that don't exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox


    I think Linerick's issues stem from not enough changes or new players. Look what a refresh did for Cahill and Tipp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,196 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,481 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Clare 2024

    Limerick 2023

    Limerick 2020

    Galway 2017

    Kilkenny 2014

    Kilkenny 2012

    Kilkenny 2009

    Kilkenny 2006

    Kilkenny 2003

    Kilkenny 2002

    Tipperary 2001

    All teams to win the league and go onto win the All-Ireland. Lame enough for you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,196 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Extremely lame, yes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭portlaoisepal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 treklane


    I’d agree strongly with everything he said .



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