Tesla Talk 2

its about the turnover of Dundrum town centre, so pretty pathetic in the context!

Same here. Bought TSLA many times and just take small gains whenever they happen. Sometimes within days, sometimes many months. @maidhc - no that is not gambling if you are prepared to sit it out long term. Unless of course the company goes bankrupt. The only large USA car manufacturers that have never gone bankrupt are Ford and Tesla. And there might be only one left in that small list in the near enough future and that is not Ford…

The only "gamble" here is that I sell - realising a gain - and then the share goes up. This has of course also happened on me and the share is now way up on what it was the last time I sold everything. I currently don't hold TSLA nor do I plan to go back in at current share price. But I have said that before 😂

Yeah but for doing a lot less work

It's gonna be driving me home from the pub shortly, I'm telling you!🍻😉

Not in Ireland it won't. In the USA quite likely within a few years or so. I would put serious money on it being before 2030 (likely much sooner)

Fat chance unless they start to use advanced sensors and beef up the onboard computers.

Even they're operating within the geofenced/mapped routes around Austin it's still making lots of errors driving in pristine weather conditions, on wide roads.

This isn't level 5. It even states on the video it is using the Robotaxi software, which means a remote operator would take over if needed.

Kees Roelandschap, @KRoelandschap, comments that there is some offical paperwork ongoing for FSD article 39 exemption in EU (RDW Netherlands). He is expecting this process to complete in next 1 or 2 months. And Netherlands or Germany to grant approval very soon after that.

Robotaxi in Austin - looks like it is just a minor upgraded version of the standard FSD software. USD 4.20 fixed fee per ride. There still is a safety driver in the car with their right hand on an electronic brake, just in case

And for anyone not aware, this guy has been reporting on his own experiences with FSD beta for a very long time, he is an ex-Tesla employee. For the below video, he took lots of Robotaxi rides

Night and day indeed. The Waymo is a $250k cost to build test vehicle that can only operate in a clearly defined geofenced area on certain roads. The Tesla is a standard $25k cost to build consumer car without alterations that can operate anywhere

Humans use lidar?

FSD is by definition not geofenced. That's the whole point. It can work anywhere. Waymo is geofenced. As in the entire infrastructure is programmed in. That's why it would struggle if there is a major change in the roads until it has been updated. Of course the Austin trial is limited to a certain area of Austin that is the safest to drive in, so temporarily geofenced of sorts

"Remote monitoring and a guy sitting in the car" while true is without context. It is the first live trial and of course it is going to be with some limitations, used to provide feedback loop, learn, and respect safety, so a degree of caution is to be expected …to do otherwise would be silly.

This first trial/test does not represent the ambitions of perfecting the technology and ironing out issues before being scaled. I am not making a case for it either way, other than to inject some balance as criticisms for the first test of a new technology for being done at a small scale with built in contingencies to address safety issues are to be expected, praised rather than criticised.