Tesla Talk 2

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614351#Comment_123614351

You're throwing all 6 levels of self driving into one big bucket there 😂

What I will predict again is that Tesla will be the first to reach level 5 autonomous driving for cars owned by private customers: no driver needed under any circumstances. The car (manufacturer) is responsible.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614434#Comment_123614434

I was outlining where we are at now. I said exactly:

Self driving means no one in the driver's seat, and no company currently sells that

No one currently sells it to private companies. Tesla are not even the closest. Do you think Tesla will have a car that I can own that can legally drive me home from the pub under their insurance, and not only that, be first to market to do so? Note I live rurally, approx 15km from the nearest town.

sk8board

the Canada Q1 and Q2 deliveries really highlight the effects on sales of tariff wars, EV rebate removal, and public sentiment.

In the 8 quarters of 2023 and ‘24, Canada delivered avg 12,000 each quarter.

They delivered just 860 3/Y vehicles in Q2 2025, and by all accounts online, many of the 35 nationwide Canadian locations sold no cars at all in June. Most were Q1 hangover deliveries in March.

https://x.com/TroyTeslike/status/1941156737886879848

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614470#Comment_123614470

Yep if you lived in the USA likely within the next few years. In Ireland later. We are under the control of the UNECE and they are not only extremely slow to adapt to developments, they seem to keep throwing up barriers. No idea how much later it will happen here after it happens in the USA. Even China allows FSD beta now. Europe is falling behind in all sorts of areas, we will be the laughing stock soon enough, if we aren't already.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614689#Comment_123614689

Considering the first cars sold as 'coming with full self driving hardware' are now reaching end of life (2014 model S were described as having fully self driving capable hardware), and we're almost 10 years into Tesla autopilot (as opposed to the aforementioned Mobileye product now known as AP1), I love the optimism of 'the next few years', I really do. No one would love a legal and free taxi home from the pub! But I don't think it will happen in the next 10 years. There may be betas, geofenced tests, etc etc, but until the blinkers are removed and it can be done anywhere without a driver, it doesn't count.

The musk of 2014-19 would have made it work, but I think he's … lost his charm…

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614689#Comment_123614689

Europes roads are ancient relative to the geo US locations with FSD trialling, some of our L roads are shocking twisty/hilly with absolute zero visibility of where to go. Let them perfect it on better roads then see how it goes….

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614704#Comment_123614704

You don't think it would happen in the USA within the next 10 years? Wanna bet €1000 with me that it will?

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614889#Comment_123614889

Pretty sure I already have a bet on here from a couple of years ago reaching to the end of 2030

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614989#Comment_123614989

Haha with me? Can't find anything I am looking for on boards with the boards search function or even with google, so I gave up using it years ago

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614889#Comment_123614889

I think the point is that you’d have made that same bet any year of the past decade.

Having a vehicle capable of driverless travel, and having government policy that allows its >safe< usage, in >all< conditions, are two very different things.

Tesla can talk until they are blue in the face able how they’ll get around weather and low sun. The Austin trial forbids them from having these vehicles on public streets in anything other than optimal weather conditions for this very reason.

I think ultimately it’s the safety requirements that will be their downfall.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123615018#Comment_123615018

Of course I haven't made any such bet 10 years ago. At least I hope not 😂 It would have been purely based on faith. Like people believing in God. I'm an atheist.

Can you show me where I made that bet? Not until some time last year did FSD beta become really convincing to me.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123614765#Comment_123614765

This is likely why the EU is taking its time making sure FSD will actually work and not kill somebody. It's also notable that Tesla and Waymo only operate within fixed geofences so they probably need to load a heap of data into their systems

I think the only way for FSD to become a reality is if every manufacturer works on the same software at the same time

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123615053#Comment_123615053

apologies, I mean “someone could’ve made that bet any year of the past decade”, I don’t mean you specifically

BestWestern

This is the typical over expectation of technology advances in the short term, and under expectation of technology advances in the medium and long term.

If Europe takes a bit longer, well so be it.. We won't be the laughing stock of anyone but fan boys.

slave1

Folks, I read on one of the Tesla threads that the S3XY Commander can disable AutoSteer nagging, I can't see this in my setup, am I mis-remembering a post?

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123616926#Comment_123616926

The commander doesn't have that function to my knowledge. What you are probably thinking about is the "Autopilot Penalty Prevention" function

This disengages autopilot before your speed exceeds 140km/h and re-engages it shortly after dropping back below. The reason for this function is that autopilot penalises you when you go over that speed and you can't re-engage autopilot until that drive finishes, it also counts towards your 5 penalties in a week

The best way of disabling autosteer nagging is to get a privacy camera to cover the camera facing you. The nagging controls then revert to the weight felt on the steering wheel which is much easier to obey properly

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123616879#Comment_123616879

The EU always takes longer approving things like this, the result is better safety standards so you can't complain too much really

unkel

It's nothing to do with the EU lads. We fall under the rulings of the UNECE.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123616986#Comment_123616986

The best way of disabling autosteer nagging is to get a privacy camera to cover the camera facing you. The nagging controls then revert to the weight felt on the steering wheel which is much easier to obey properly

I've always had a camera cover until last year year. After a particular update, covering the camera only prevented the distracted driving warning. But to compensate the nagging on the steering wheel then becomes very excessive. So much so it resulted in me holding the wheel with a constant slight turning force when on the motorway to counter the warning.

Took off the camera cover and everything returned as normal.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123616926#Comment_123616926

There is an Autopilot Hands-on / Nag Dismissal i.e. the ability to use a button to acknowledge the "apply slight turning force to the steering wheel" nag. Instead of having to physically move the wheel, you can simply press a S3XY button to dismiss the warning, allowing for a more relaxed Autosteer experience.

Otherwise you can disable the speed limit warning.

Or as @Red Silurian above - the "Autopilot Penalty Prevention"

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617273#Comment_123617273

That's the one I was thinking of, I ofter have my hand on the wheel and still get the warning (and also looking at the road) despite me moving the wheel. I don't have a button, just the stalks so should be able to assign function to a stalk button but not there, I'll pop out and see if there's a firmware update

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617250#Comment_123617250

I was not aware of this button function… Must try this out

slave1

Updated everything, does not appear on any assignable menu for the stalks, shame

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617629#Comment_123617629

Get in contact for a feature request. The devs appear to be fairly responsive. I contacted them with a query and they got back to me in next day.

https://www.enhauto.com/pages/contact

Or there is also a Reddit thread which they monitor

https://www.reddit.com/r/s3xybuttons/

Someone on that thread has adapted their buttons into a set of paddles.

Worthwhile - probably not really for an EV, but I admire the ingenuity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIOvMJZCA4

unkel

Not much happening. Wish Elon would talk a lot more shite about the America Party so TSLA would collapse so I can get back in 😂

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123617663#Comment_123617663

Heard an interesting stat just this afternoon, that while Tesla rose 7x in 2020 from the potential future revenue from all those non existent projects, once they actually entered the S&P500 in late 2020, they have underperformed the index since 😳.

Separately, im not sure the SP will drop much; a slow bleed maybe. It’s currently 8% below the pre-Austin price.

The share register hasn’t many people left who are there based on Tesla manufacturing cars, so you will only have selling pressure from people who have given up waiting for them to pop. That said, retail investors are notoriously impatient and truly awful at trying to time the market 😄

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123618238#Comment_123618238

Yeah I'm under no illusion I can "time" the market. And nor should you be. Just waiting for an external event like another fight or something that will spook the market / analysts. Happy as always to take many small profits on the way. And if it doesn't go my way, I will just sit on my hands for as long as it takes.

unkel

What the hell is going on? I wanted to see a good few more days of MINUS 5% 😂

September1

It seems extended warranty is no longer available in Ireland.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123621975#Comment_123621975

Tesla cars are getting Grok