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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Summer 2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    is everybody looking forward to our 2 warm cloudy days on Thursday and Friday. I’m so excited.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭beggars_bush




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    GFS 12z not looking pretty for next week, low pressure for Monday into Tuesday with wind and rain especially for western areas followed by another low pressure for Thursday into Friday. Temperatures mid to high teens at best.

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    If this verifies make the most of the fine and warm weather over the next few days. Hopefully this return of the Atlantic after a short fine spell is a temporary one and we see another push from the azores high later in June.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    GEM 12z couldn't be more different than the GFS 12z.

    Yes we turn a bit cooler and unsettled from Monday but then by Wednesday we get a blowtorch southerly pumping up some very hot air once again.

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    chalk and cheese between the GFS and GEM for next week. Which scenario will happen?

    I reckon both models are outliers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭esposito


    I’m liking the look of this evenings ECM for next weekend.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    sooo, let’s see now, if I reading this correctly, a tilted skinny finger of the Azores,with a southwest pig flow, with dank skank flowing on the northwestern flank of it flowing over western coastal extremities and 17 degrees id imagine, buried under a layer of featureless depressing grey stratus sheet cloud, gloomy,grey,dull,drizzle, yup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭dominatinMC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    ECM wet outlook for the north and west especially.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,520 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Ya all next week looks wet and showery with a brief window of a warm dry few hours Wednesday.

    Highest temperature in the West will be 18c or 19c ...in the East and South 22c or 23c on a couple of days.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    looks to be a north-west/southeast divide over the UK and Ireland over the next 2 weeks, On one side Western Ireland mostly joining Scotland in the muck and on the other side south-east England enjoying continental summer weather. Eastern Ireland caught somewhere in the middle with a slightly unsettled week and mild to warmish temperatures.

    Overall an unsettled period coming up which could last a couple of weeks, but unlikely to be as overly wet as the first 2 weeks of June.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    A fairly clear trend from the GFS ensembles, a heat spike over the weekend, more so for England but Ireland will still see temperatures up to 25C particularly on Sunday and Monday. Turns much cooler from late Monday into Tuesday with a cool spell lasting most of next week. Second week of July has potential to turn warmer again. Nothing overly wet showing in the models.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    That's positive anyway , maybe 2nd half of July or August may have prolonged heat , its there over continental Europe so plenty to tap into in the right conditions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Take it with a pinch of salt for now but CFSv2 going with a classic warm and dry July pattern with a strong positive height anomaly right over us and slightly to the east, would draw the wind often from a southeasterly direction which is our hottest direction. I'd say this would compete with our hottest Julys such as 1983, 1989, 2006 and 2013 if it were to verify.

    Would be something to see a July like this after such a warm and sunny spring as all of the springs in the years named above were rather cold and unsettled for the most part aside from May 1989.

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    Photography site - https://sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,520 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Certainly July looks a warmer than average one overall but the widespread sun of Spring may not be a guarantee. We will be getting a few plumes from the South likely so 30c could be reached some day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭dominatinMC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I hope so 🙏 I just want our record being beaten but even if it's not 27ºc to 31ºc range I'd settle for



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I'm not sure it's entirely possible for us to beat that record, too many factors go wrong easily either too much cloud or onshore winds knocking the edge off the maximum max possible. We have too much 'sea' around us particularly to our south and not large enough land area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    We where so close in August 2022 33.1c in Dublins phoenix park who knows even 33.4c I'd settle for



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    If we're going to break the record I'd like a clean break of it with at least a 34.0C!

    Back to the near distant future a big shift in the GFS towards things warming up in the second week of July and settling down. Take this with a huge grain of salt for now.

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    High pressure anchored over us for at least a week with mid to high twenties, one can only dream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭compsys


    Regards the record…

    The average high in Ireland in the peak of summer is about 19.3/19.4 degrees. So you're looking for a temp that's over 14º above average. It's a big ask.

    One for Sryan — how much does our record deviate above average compared to other countries' records? Who has the biggest record so to speak?

    Also, back in 1887, when the record was set, the average high in late June was probably around 17º. Meaning the temp was 16º above average. Which seems a bit dubious to me…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Yes 34c would be good but as you said a while ago there's alot against us beating this record, oh lovely 😍 hopefully 2nd half of July is nice but still 2 weeks away , it will be a start if models are still the same next Monday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Could we have a change in fortune for the 2nd week in July?

    According to ECM and GFS there looks to be some support for a more settled spell with high pressure close by. We are still looking outside the reliable but this trend has been gathering traction in the last few days. Also, seasonal models have been pointing this way for some time now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    There is nothing dubious about the record at all.

    The year 1887 was notoriously dry and regarded as Ireland's driest year on record - for instance, in the year of 1887, Glasnevin recorded just 356.6mm which is drier than many Spanish stations.

    When you've got incredibly dry ground, the sun's energy goes into heating the lower atmosphere instead of evaporating the ground moisture. This results in much greater temperatures being recorded. The abstract here explains it: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023WR036490



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    Phoenix Park was revised downwards to 33.0°C.

    A 33.5°C was recorded in Dublin back in the mid-late 1800s and since disregarded. Think Markree also got around 33.5°C in the 1850s - but also disregarded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    The link never appeared in the original post so trying again - http://bit.ly/400hbq9



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭compsys


    I accept the point about it being very dry. But back in 1887 there was no global warming. A temperature anomaly of over 16º seems like a huge ask, no? Especially for Ireland.

    Even today, have many stations gone 16º above average?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    even still 33°c made it a new county record for Dublin which in itself is brilliant , maybe with the way the climate is going we may see temperatures in the range of 27°c to 32°c a lot more across Ireland



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    that would be great if it did, the only real change I'm seeing in our climate is that our winters are definitely overall getting milder with snow harder and harder to come by each winter. Another thing I've noticed is our dryer periods have become more common and they can last quite a while as well. As for our summers we are still for the most part struggling to reach 30C or more on a widespread scale outside of the exceptional summers like 1976, 1995, 2018, 2022 etc. However low twenties is becoming noticeably more common especially in eastern and southern areas through the summer months.

    To get 34C or more in this country we would probably need the +25C uppers sitting over us for a few hours early to mid afternoon in the middle/end of July, unbroken sunshine and a very gentle south-easterly breeze that's barely noticeable, something that's almost impossible to achieve. This combined with our geography is why we have the oldest temperature record in Europe going back to the 1800s.

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    Pity the above chart doesn't show the year.



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