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North Korea botched launch of North Korean Destroyer.

  • 22-05-2025 03:44PM
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    With all that's going on in the world, we haven't heard much from the big man over the last few months. Anyway, North Korea's attempt to launch its second naval destroyer in a month appears to have gone horribly wrong. Kim Jong Un is livid—describing the incident as a criminal act caused by carelessness, irresponsibility, and "unscientific empiricism" that should never occur and cannot be tolerated. He also vowed to punish the officials responsible for the accident as criminals, stating that it "lowered the dignity and self-respect" of his country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    And this is the country that Russia is turning to for help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,028 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    That help is very much a 2 way street. Russia are getting shells & ballistic missiles (reports of v.high failure rate on both) and troops (reportedly 15k so far).

    In return, N.K has gained access to Russian tech which despite its limitations is far in excess of where they were. Guidance systems, Radars and other tech perhaps even some technical info on nuclear warhead optimisation to allow N.K shrink their warheads to a size that allow them mounted in smaller SRBM missiles, or to be mounted in MIRV form on their ICBM.

    Kim seems to have decided to trade his ammo stockpiles for short cuts in weapons development. The problem with being given that tech rather than developing it? Is that you leave your own development process foundering.

    Racing to build top heavy frigates (the info via op-int on the 1st points to a lot, an awful lot of top weight). The N.Ks seem to be repeating the Japanese ship building mistakes that were borne out of the Washington Treaty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,890 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    They used a different launch method they weren't experienced with. This is a ship building issue not a military one. Even if it is a warship.

    It's not like other countries haven't had ship launches go wrong. It's just so rare in NK to launching a warship of this size that its high profile.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's true, but I don't think that will be much help to the poor officials who are deemed to be at fault for it. It’ll be a long stint in prison—or worse—for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Not to mention, it’s little more than western propaganda/a bad news story about the failings of the enemy. Let’s focus on this everyone, nothing to see in Gaza and elsewhere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,389 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Kim will easily fix it over the weekend with his welding kit and world class welding experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,890 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,292 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Best Korea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    You are all wrong. Obviously Kim promoted this magnificent ship to Submarine.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    What's "unscientific empiricism" when it's at home? I think these so called Communists just make words up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I love how everyone here is taking the piss out of North Korea....

    Can you imagine the shìtbox we would put together ...itd probably cost trillions aswell...

    Fùck me - look at the childrens hospital..

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭aziz


    But at least the people responsible for the childrens hospital debacle won’t be put up against a wall and shot

    As much as they should be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Chongjin Marine was an interesting choice to build the ship. A civilian shipyard which hasn't built anything significant in over thirty years, but was given the nod simply to increase overall production capacity for the ship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Are we sure they built it ? Pretty sure I seen a ship like that on TEMU



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,116 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Not like this has driven Gaza off the front page?

    Or else are you saying that there should be no news other than Gaza?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,683 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Bit of a silly comment to be fair. There isn't an embargo on world news because the Gaza conflict is ongoing.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It isn’t Western propaganda. The story offers a rare glimpse into what is happening in North Korea. It is not, and has not been, headline news around the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Bollíx. The most famous ship ever, was built on this island.

    Actually, yeah you are right, that didn't end well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,376 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Usually in despotic dictatorships you are "lucky to die" once you get arrested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,890 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    True...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    To be fair. It was well built. Just didn't have enough lifeboats for ........... Nevermind.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    This is genuinely puzzling and hard to understand why those so …..“interested"….. in the DPRK haven’t updated this with the news that-
    The Kang Kon destroyer (damaged in Chongjin Shipyard on 21 May) has been promptly repaired and re-launched at Rajin dockyard on 12th June.

    Real mystery there❗️❗️

    Just read a bit of the NYT article in the OP, which is just another typical turd in an endless avalanche of cartoonish, fraudulent red scare 1.0, CIA anti-communist h*rseh1t – no wonder the people who read capitalist-sociopath owned media are so misinformed about their own political interests and adopt their overlords interests as if it is their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Of course DPRK would say that, what do you think has happened to the people responsible for the ship falling into it's side in a failed launch attempt? Was it unscientific empiricism that caused this?

    Will they use the AA gun again?

    (more seriously, of course they'll have fixed it, the story was the messed up launch making kim look stupider to the world, them fixing a broken boat isn't much of a story).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Will they use the AA gun again?

    I take it that you’re hinting at the typical made up out of thin air- anti-communist propaganda that KJU will/might/did have the engineers in question executed for the launch error.

    This is a perfect example why logical, rational, adult discussion in this media & education ecosystem about the DPRK is impossible when any party treats such stupid & blatant (class) war-propaganda as having even a single atom of value or merit, or as a starting point part in such a discussion.

    Its just too far from objective reality to be engagable with.

    The only information about the DPRK available to people (i.e. information requiring no actual interest or effort) is this quality of war-propaganda so its not surprising that lots of people uncritically accept it & believe it when they don’t even know it is war propaganda in the first place.

    the story was the messed up launch making kim look stupider to the world.

    So you agree with capitalist sociopaths who think industrial accidents are something to laugh at and think it makes the leader of the country where the industrial accident takes place look stupid to the world. What a strange attitude.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Are you classing the effective monarchy of DPRK as an example of communism?

    That's almost as funny as a brand new warships flopping sideways into the water due to unscientific empirical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Still proudly laughing at an industrial accident I see.

    Here’s a quick Quiz, No web searching.
    Do you know the name of the 3 political parties that make up the majority of seats in the DPRK parliament?
    Can you name the current & previous premiers of the DPRK (equivalent of a president role)?
    What is Kim Jong Un’s role and is it ceremonial (in a family legacy recognition sense) or not?
    Do you know that the premier & KJU have bitter public spats about policy differences and that KJU has no power to over-ride the decisions of the State Affairs commission.

    Then explain how its a monarchy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It's broadly similar to how the "communist" party is allowed to exist in russia, as long as they follow putin's policy and avoid being defenestrated or AA gun'd (and I thought you'd be happy with a weapon of war being broken? In your "obvious" style, are you pro war? Why do you want so many war boats to be built and repaired when they flop?).

    Do you want to go into the constitutional messing around that has occurred since the "Eternal President" proved less than eternal?

    What is the current leader (great or supreme) relationship to the previous leader(s) ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭iMac Hunt


    I have no doubt that at some stage in the future North Korea will launch a nuclear weapon but I wouldn't be too concerned as it will probably fall straight down from the sky and land back in North Korea!



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