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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • #14822
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123437165#Comment_123437165

    Logged I and got estimate back. They want to replace the high voltage harness for €105 which seems fine.

    However I also reported the ongoing issues with the parking sensors not working, the distance to object intermittently working on screen, park assist rarely working, eap disengaging when indicating, etc. They have provided an estimate of €370 to replace front sensor(s), of which parts are €110.

    All this work will be done by the ranger but I was wondering if it is possible to fully diagnose the parking sensor and other related issues remotely or am I likely to face further costs once they get stuck into the job? I've been living with this issue with over a year and while a pita it's not a critical issue for me. While €370 is a bit steep its probably worth it to sort out this issue but I might think twice about going ahead with the work if the costs escalated significantly. Does anyone know if I have the option to decide not to go ahead with a repair on the day if the costs escalate beyond estimate or will I be locked into paying for whatever the job ends up costing?



  • #14823
    ddcluracan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭ddcluracan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493009#Comment_123493009

    As the repair progresses, if they find other issues they will send another estimate for repair. You can approve or talk to them first.



  • #14824
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Are you in warranty?

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • #14825
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493801#Comment_123493801

    Unfortunately not. Its a 212 but just shy of 100k km



  • #14826
    kris_2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭kris_2021


    Thinking about getting new model 3. Dealer said if I pay deposit and complete paperwork now I will lock 0.99% pcp rate no matter when actual order/ delivery takes place. Is that true? My pcp on id4 is still out for couple more months.



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  • #14827
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494089#Comment_123494089

    Ues that’s normal with Tesla. You get whatever offer is on at the time of ordering. Unless there’s a better offer at time of collection, you can lock in the better offer then.



  • #14828
    theevguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭theevguy


    Tesla are such a rip off out of warranty for any work done. But no different to any other brand like VW, BMW, AUDI etc.

    They charge through the nose for labour.

    I had the suspension joints repaired just outside warranty and they replaced the upper front ones with their mobile service. Cost 350 odd

    Then the lower ones had to be done onsite. Between that and their wheel alignment it was 550£ for those.

    Labour at £190 per hour!!!

    Thing is most "mechanics" won't touch a Tesla. They are scared of them. So the choice is limited compared to ICE legacy brands.

    There is a massive gap here for specialized Tesla "mechanics" that could well undercut Tesla.

    I always laugh at Rsev on YouTube when he says how cheap it is to repair Teslas. Yeah mate obviously if you have your own in house lads do it for u!

    Lesson for everyone is getting a full check before warranty is up. It will save you a lot compared to getting fixed outside of warranty



  • #14829
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495093#Comment_123495093

    Agree. My car was given a check up before the warranty ended and the front control arms were replaced free of charge. Unfortunately the issue with the parking sensors and EAP etc showed up within about 5k kms of the warranty expiring while the DC charging harness issue only showed up a couple of weeks back with 98k km on the clock.



  • #14830
    theevguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭theevguy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495117#Comment_123495117

    Yeah I blame myself for the suspension I should have noticed it earlier or been proactive regarding the warranty service.

    Also the cost of servicing in Belfast compared to sandyford seems about 30% more expensive.

    Tesla parts can be purchased cheaply online but it's getting someone to fit them that's the problem.

    I had boot arm fixed under warranty and this week sounds like it's going again. I'll be looking for that to be covered as it's a part that's only been replaced 15km ago and shouldn't be going again so soon.

    A warranty service is something I can't encourage enough people to do.

    Or even just say your suspension is squeaking at 70k even if it's not!



  • #14831
    wassie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭wassie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495117#Comment_123495117

    If you purchased this car from new or used from a dealer and you are marginally outside of the limited warranty, by 5000km as you say, but still inside the 4 years, you may well be entitled to make a claim to the dealer for repair under Consumer Law.

    People seem to forget this applies to cars. If the fault is due to misuse, wear and tear or accidental damage you will not be covered by consumer rights law. But generally it is reasonable to expect the car to meet certain conditions of quality and durability and match what was set out in the contract.

    You can expect push back if going down this route, but consumer law is very strong.



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  • #14832
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495511#Comment_123495511

    I bought it just after it was out of warranty. The previous owner had done the warranty check up a few months earlier before it hit 80k km



  • #14833
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Folks, look up your faults, there is a quiet free of charge on control arms for early Teslas, same as door handles on early S/X which is heavily discounted, free replacement of EMMC chip in early S/X etc

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • #14834
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,258 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    My car (Model 3 SR+ 103k km) is currently in with them, for what I thought was only to have it's 3rd set of upper control arms fitted..

    Turns out its the upper control arms, front lateral links & the rear upper fore link bushings…

    €2,200 (so far) and thats before I bring it somewhere else for alignment..

    …and they won't have the parts for a month!!

    The cars are made out of butter.



  • #14835
    theevguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭theevguy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496135#Comment_123496135

    This is the problem. If it was my old VW I'd not be going near a main dealer for that work. Local mechanic would do it for a quarter the price.

    I don't know anyone that wants to go near a Tesla round where I live.

    So if anything goes wrong you have to bend over.

    A warranty service was suggested by a friend and I long fingered it.



  • #14836
    ddcluracan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭ddcluracan


    I have to agree with all comments above. Front lateral links and upper control arms (at 97,000kms) fixed in Tesla Belfast for £720 in the end after I kicked off. They assured me the new front control arms and links were redesigned to last longer. I would have loved to find an independent, but no joy. However in retrospect, in my old diesel car I would have 6 to 8 services in that time costing at least 200 euro each. So I consoled myself with that knowledge.



  • #14837
    wassie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭wassie


    I had mine replaced under warranty a couple of years back as @slave1 posted above.

    I'm getting squeaks again in my rear suspension when I go over bumps, so probably needs to have the rear bushes replaced for the second time. Not surprised TBH given the weight of the car combined with a lot of traveling on harsh country R-roads.

    Bit depressed today to also discover this in my app today.

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  • #14838
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496135#Comment_123496135

    It's why I would not touch a US build car, when busy they were assembling them in tents

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • #14839
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,258 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    In my case, his words were (and in addition to the upper control arms);

    front lateral links have play in the ball joints, and the bushings are completely torn

    at the rear, the upper fore link bushings are fully dislodged from the arms, and there's noticeable play in both rear knuckles

    I think you might be onto something @slave1 , though my car was built there towards the end by which point they were probably indoors…. no lights mind as teh panel gaps are woeful…



  • #14840
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496423#Comment_123496423

    Listening to the woes of M3 drivers, the general warranrly seems to be more important than the main battery warranty. Main battery problems seem to be rare while rest of the car is made of lessor stuff. So much for the zero service, save for tyres and cablin filter, Tesla

    It's the opposite story to my old Leaf. After 204k km the only issues have been brake pads, parking brake cable, front control arms and a 12v battery. In contrast the main battery is made of cheese.



  • #14841
    wassie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭wassie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496699#Comment_123496699

    My car was the last batch of Fremont cars and I had a lot of issues in first couple of years. But I did eventually get everything sorted under warranty and have been fairly fault free since. Had rangers tell me on 2 occasions that there was a massive gap between the quality of the Fremont cars vs MIC cars just based on the warranty services they were doing.

    Honestly I have no concerns about battery (or motor) as there is enough evidence to show that even after 300,000km the battery should have more then 85% of its original capacity. As Im doing around 40K km a year, will probably hold on another year before doing a change over.



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  • #14842
    theevguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭theevguy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496375#Comment_123496375

    Yeah but that's a false economy though. I think I'd prefer a regular service and repair bills that can be sorted by a regular mechanic. Having to bend over to Tesla when anything goes wrong is a bit of a trap.

    So much for only needing to change the tires!



  • #14843
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496699#Comment_123496699

    Its swings and roundabouts too.

    I had a Fremont Model 3P, 4 years in and all it needed was tyres at 42k. My Leaf failed first NCT due to the solid rear axle beam and no adjustment on the slip/alignment etc Had to go back to Nissan for shim instalment to hammer it back straight. Both of them were very trouble free cars.



  • #14844
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497435#Comment_123497435

    Any competent mechanic can work on a Tesla, save for the HV stuff obviously, but that goes for all EV's. Suspension, brakes etc are all basic components. If your normal mechanic states they don't work on them, its down to pure laziness, ignorance or just too bust to be bothered looking at it.



  • #14845
    ddcluracan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭ddcluracan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497435#Comment_123497435

    I agree, it is a bit of a trap and if anyone knows of an independent mechanic who is willing to work with Teslas I am all ears. In the future this could be a bigger issue, if for example the brand becomes so toxic they pull out of UK and Ireland. (I am not saying this is likely but other car brands like Saab have gone in the past). They are selling a lot of cars here so surely there would be a market for an independent Tesla specialist.



  • #14846
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497566#Comment_123497566

    Where are you based?

    I had mine in Keith Lenihan Motors, HB Denis.

    Service stop in north county dublin do work on them too, including battery/cell repair.



  • #14847
    theevguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭theevguy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497516#Comment_123497516

    May be so but unfortunately that is the reality, right or wrong it's how things are.



  • #14848
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497683#Comment_123497683

    But its not "the reality", there are many garages that will work on the mechanicals of any EV, there are also many that wont, That's the reality.



  • #14849
    ddcluracan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭ddcluracan


    Thanks, I will keep them in mind.



  • #14850
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,258 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123497587#Comment_123497587

    Would HB Denis be able to do my upper control arms, lateral links & rear bushings?

    Would the parts/sizes be generic or Tesla specific?

    I was planning on going to them for alignment once I get all my bits sorted, but if they could do it all I’d happily give them my business



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  • #14851
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498070#Comment_123498070

    I'd say they would do them in their sleep.

    I was out there a few years back in a 2014 Model S P85 and they were one of the few that had the tesla settings on their Hunter alignment machine to set the car up, he has RR stripped down and a whole host of Hybrids stripped.



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