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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭prosaic


    You're saying the complete opposite of your previous post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,627 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭sk8board


    2024 Cybertruck’s are now getting trade in offers of about half their original new price, if you wondered if it was a failure.

    cars.com have a few with a $7k wrap listing for $67k, and they won’t sell for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,755 ✭✭✭pah


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    Do you drive a Tesla @prosaic?

    Mine shat the bed yesterday for no apparent reason. Just after passing the car on the right here while doing about 80km/HR on autopilot, slammed hard on the brakes and reminded me why I rarely use the bloody thing. The car ahead didn't slow down, cars coming in the opposite direction were driving normally and Tesla Vision's basic lane keep assist and cruise control can't even work properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,802 ✭✭✭893bet


    did it assess the thing on the left as something about to exit onto the road? The ditch shadow is van like.

    Post edited by 893bet on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭prosaic


    No, an Ioniq 5.

    You are using autopilot which is not same as fsd. also fsd 13 is a lot better than 12 (moot point in Ireland where fsd is not currently allowed anyway). HW4 is require to run the newest version of fsd.

    The Austin deployment will be using a newer fsd (assume it will be fsd 14) and possibly even using HW5 (not sure about that).

    Supposedly HW3 cars will be udgraded for people who want to use fsd unsupervised, when that becomes available (due to promises made).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭whizkid9


    Tesla M3 prices in Luxembourg dropped below 30K. Does anyone thinks, this price drop will come to IE ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,812 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Probably included the shadow of the car on the tight as part of the car, assessed it was in your lane and dropped anchors accordingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Not a road I'd be using autopilot on personally seeing as it wouldn't slow down for windy bends and will slow for when you're "undertaking" like in the photo.

    I'd always have foot resting on accelerator and tap for occasions like that.

    I use it it on all dual carriage ways, motorways, stop start traffic and some local roads with low speed limits etc... and have about 1 phantom brake a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    Tesla always lauded for tech and you can't even use cruise control on a decent single lane road without it shltting the bed.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,507 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Post the video. Maybe the car veered left?

    I’d had my bmw do the same thing with shadows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I didn’t notice that until you said it, but jeez if that’s the case, it’s a pretty bad misread of the situation.

    The worst/only thing I’ve noticed with the VW one is that sometimes on winding 120kmph motorway it’ll spot a lower speed limit sign on an off ramp that appears to be in front of the car and starts to slow, unless I jab the accelerator first to ignore it

    Post edited by sk8board on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    the enhanced autopilot doesn’t work at all in the dark on the motorway, had to switch it off and go back so standard cruise control, can’t see me switching it back on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭sk8board


    cameras accurately identifying 100.000% of objects in the pitch dark and making the correct decisions instantaneously, feels like an oxymoron.

    I’ll say one thing, this Tesla camera-only story is fascinating to follow. It’s really all just about cost-savings at the cost of driver safety, irrespective of how well Tesla get it to work.

    It’s all about those photons 🙄😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Without auto steer? I don't have EAP but regularly drive M3,M7,M8,M9,M11,M50 in the dark without issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I had auto steer on, it won’t work at all with it.

    The advanced auto pilot came with mine as I bought a 3mt old demo model off them. Struggling to figure out what people who paid for that upgrade actually got for their money.

    The only option in autopilot is Traffic aware cruise control or Auto steer beta which I presume everyone has. The Mrs managed to record one strike out the other day whatever she did, so 4 more and they’ll disable it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,182 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The issue is that the cars don't seem to have basic cruise control as an option. (Not TACC, not autosteer, jjust dumb cruise).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It feels like dumb/trad cruise, which i'm fine with, auto steer is just pure lazy and dangerous as it can drag you off course and won't avoid obstacles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 The 1922 Committee


    Sales down 45.9% in April in Germany...source Handelsblatt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭sk8board


    some v big drops in the main EU markets, and huge 62% drop in the UK too

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    and here’s year-to-date. The line is -50%, so they are down 60%+ in most of the biggest markets.

    In the Uk, even though they had a good Q1, they are now under 10% of marketshare

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 The 1922 Committee


    Germany sales were only 885 vehicles which won't keep the German plant open.

    Tesla will end up selling less than VAG, Renault, BMW and the Koreans in Germany if they keep this up. EVs were 20% of market last month



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    have you a break down by model year on year? As in the 3 and Y. Very few people would be ordering a new car and buying the old model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    if you go onto the German website you can’t have a new one until June and there are no new model Y in stock for delivery. That’s 100% effecting deliveries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 The 1922 Committee


    In a Country where cars are mostly ordered as company cars many months in advance that shouldn't be having an impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    if they’ve nothing to deliver it’s going to have an impact, nobody is reporting car orders, deliveries are only ment to start this month I think. There’s people who ordered model 3’s here in December who still haven’t got their car. If anything they have a capacity problem not an order problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 The 1922 Committee


    Production of Juniper in Germany started in mid January with delivery starting at start of March.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,507 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Worth noting that the March 7th first deliveries were only the Launch Model. So near on €67k or so (here).

    I’d say most if any were waiting on the RWD to be released. Whether that will make a difference or not, god knows but best to highlight it for transparency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭sk8board


    there should be zero supply side issues in Berlin, for both the highland or the juniper.

    The only reason to produce-to-order in Berlin would be a demand issue and to not have stock building up, like the overproduction problems they have in the US, with cars literally parked anywhere they can find space, and vast parks of cars is expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,922 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    i am contemplating on taking tesla up on the 0.9% pcp rate on the juniper, its effectively free financing and the GMFV are lowish as well.

    I will definitely order quicksilver as an option, id like the helix wheels aswell but they dont offer on the RWD and they push the awd over the threshold for grant with a colour option…

    Few qns,

    EV database has the real world range of the RWD at 365km (similar to my etron 55 albeit with a much smaller battery) and the RWD LR at more like 460+, does that sound about right?

    PCP offers both 36 and 48m and options for mileage, assume it makes sense to pick whatever keeps the monthlies lowest given negligible interest and mileage is only a concern in a handback scenario so will select the lowest option there.

    So options are RWD in quicksilver at 48,666, or RWD LR in stealth grey with helix wheels at 53,720

    To be honest the range on the etron does us fine driving around 15,000km per year we probably only public charge 2 or 3 times a year so perhaps the extra cash on the LR is wasted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Well there is, if you go onto the German telsa forums (it's handy if you can read german), people who ordered when the books opened in february are now only getting delivery dates. If you order one today it's June delivery, I see people have changed their mind on spec extra vins are getting reassigned so there's obiviously demand.



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