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Arcade High Score Challenge - Round 11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ive been back playing a lot of Battle Garegga recently so the big slow brightly coloured projectiles in this feel really easy to dodge in comparison.

    Then when you can't dodge you can use that shield repel thing to save your backside. It almost feels a bit like bomb spamming when you know you're going to get hit without having to use a bomb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Was gonna pick battle Garegga , glad I didn't .

    I've not really given a " bullet hell" schmup a proper go so I probably just need to get used to dodging and bullet patterns ,and being patient .

    Does Gigawing have that hitbox nonsense where only a tiny part of the ship is actually vunerable to bullets ?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Hit the 12 digits. Green ship. Think I've got the scoring system down - less about how far you get (this was only midway through stage two on green) and more about racking up insane multipliers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Yeah I think only the very core part of the ship has the hitbox.

    Definitely felt like I was clipped a few times going through bullet patterns but made it through.

    You can basically cheat your way through big dense bullet patterns in this. When you see one, immediately use the reflect attack and fly into it to fire it back at enemies. It's a little like using the colour flip in Ikaruga and then flying into a lot of the same colour.

    Basically means you mostly never really have to navigate through difficult dense bullet patterns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Is that a capcom impress candy cab you have there ?

    Screen looks LCD .

    Edit...sorry you've an impress cab either side . IMPRESSIVE! what's that your playing on so



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    He's playing it on the Capcom arcade app ;) you can play games on a line of virtual machines, it's pretty cool!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Gave this a go only got to the final stage of the second boss.

    337,326,094,760 is my best so far.

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    Need a bit of catching up to o1s1n.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Best of the night. Thought I was getting somewhere with green but pink is much, much better :P

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    LOL ended up having another quick round or two before bed. Getting there!

    For anyone still sussing out the score system:

    The level multiplier increases the longer you stay alive. So if you survive for a full level, the gold tokens you collect will be worth much more than if you'd died midway through. Basically a level-long combo is the way to rack huge scores by increasing the multiplier. It resets at the start of each level so you'll need to start building up again.

    However, the game multiplier does not reset when you die or enter a new level. This determines how many points you get from each enemy kill. Hence the longer your level combo, the more your game-long combo will jump up and up.

    Bombs do not reset your combo AFAIK, but do factor into level end bonuses. Not killing enemies - especially big ones - can be leaving points on the table though so worth thinking of it as a way to grab some points you'd otherwise miss as opposed to pure survival fallback. However, it does mean you're missing out on level end bonuses, so it's a trade off.

    Bullet cancelling is the way to go. If you see a stream of bullets, you want to reflect them back - when they hit an enemy, they'll change into gold tokens. Key is learning when to use these in each level (sometimes you're better to wait a second or two after it reloads for the big tanky enemy to appear or a busier boss pattern) - have got it down for one and two, but still figuring out three :P

    FYI from reading online the default rank (i.e. intensity of the bullets) is different in Japanese vs Euro / US versions (lower AFAIK), just in case anyone is playing the former - had accidentally switched to it at one point!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Ahhh ok , thanks for that. I'll pull the disheartened socks up and give it another go later .

    It seems there is a reason I never really focused on playing any bullet hell games . 😢

    I hoping I'm playing the jap version wish dip switches set to hard 🙏

    My issue must be I keep losing lifes approx halfway through first level ..and it buggers my score . I always do a shield reflect when I know a rake of bullets are coming ..then with all the shields and medals floating about I eat a bullet i don't see when I become vincible again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Catching up! What level did you get up to on that run?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Just midway through level three. Haven't reached the level three boss yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Honestly I fluked him last night, thought he'd killed me, let go of the joystick but I actually had one life left.

    Went 'wah!!!!!!', when my ship reappeared, grabbed the joystick again and just repeatidly bomb spammed him till he died. 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yeah given only killing enemies gets you points, I think if you're not confident about beating a boss or encounter you're best using the bomb to just grab those last few points (and possibly level end bonuses). Bombs also immediately reset your reflect guage so that can be used tactically!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The lag before the shield kicks in is my biggest enemy in this game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    I dunno where you're all going with your billions and trillions of scores. I wanted to see what all the fuss was about there so i loaded it up on RetroArch with a gamepad. Struggled to crack 4 billion. Managed 9 billion there and just gave up! I tried to not use the bomb or the shield in case i lost my multiplier but of course that just meant there was more enemies and i died quicker!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Use the **** out of your shield! It's as much an attack as a shield.

    It's constantly replenishing so see it as a 'use it or lose it' kinda thing. If you see a big bullet pattern coming at you, press the shield and fly into the bullets. They'll all fire back at the enemy and unleash loads of things for you to collect for your score.

    It'll immediately start recharging again and you'll have it back before you know it, then try to use it again as soon as you can.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Had a quick go over lunch :)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The shield is king. You need all the gold tokens you can muster to get your combo up, and you need to use the reflect to cancel ALL the bullets (and do damage to the enemy in the process).

    There's points when you need to stop shooting at all to wait the five seconds for the next recharge, or desperately trying to dodge just until you hear that 'OK' and you're free to unleash hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,368 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah ye fecker 😁

    I'll have to get home this evening and wiggle my stick!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Had a dream run of level one but a fumbled death on the level two mid boss meant my multiplier didn't get up as high as it needed to in that level. Got to the level three boss at least.

    At that stage though your multiplier is so high every 15 seconds of extra survival time is crucial as your score is just leaping upwards with every enemy killed or boss part destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Ahh your havin a laugh . need to give this a good go.. @Retr0gamer hiding in the long grass I see.

    I've a feeling your a dab hand at a schmup, enjoying the lower animals in the food chain squabble and will pounce soon



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I only got a go of it last night and did awful. Just my evenings this week have been insane but going to give this more of a go. Unfortunately my preference for shooters is more traditional than bullet hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Yeah same ...i love a good traditional schmup

    .the likes of thundeforce series , R-Type , raiden , hellfire , gynoug , 1940 series , and a few neo geo crackers like blazing star , pulstar and viewpoint would be my type of bag.

    Your Darius choice was a great one as I'd never really focused on it but knew I'd love it

    just picked a bullet hell games as it's out of my comfort zone and I've never put any effort or time into one.

    Also trying to intice others into the competition as I know they have a massive following .

    @safetyboy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Dont make this an hourly thing...and you know I will . give it a go for the love of god



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Got home late again. Put some games in. Just absolutely woeful. Losing lives on the first stage. Barely ever making it to stage 2 boss and not being able to beat him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Finally broke a trillion! Not even a lousy 1up for the occassion!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭unky chop chop


    Only got a chance to have a few games there ...got to third stage each time but score was just shocking . Got half way Into 12 digits anyway

    .don't know how to pronounce it , have never had to work in billions or trillions before and I'd imagine I never will do again :(.this just ain't clicking with me.yet

    Picked the red lass each time . Spread is crap wish her so my shoot down rate was crappy .I'll try the green fellah next



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