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Hyundai Kona

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Get a decent branded tyre; Pirelli, Goodyear, Michelin etc. Often worth buying online from Tyreleader, Oponeo or Shoes for my car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Only way to check is sit in one, adjust driver seat and then sit in the back. Even 3 across the back is a challenge for most cars. Bring a few check in suitcases and check the boot too. It's a small car. eNiro is slightly bigger version of mostly the same car underneath from Kia, but naturally a bit more expensive than the Kona as it's bigger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    About to buy a 2020 64kwh this week but some thing's caught my eye that has me worried: when I put in the Reg on Axa's website it's reporting back as a 39kwh model.

    Test drive already done, with the battery about half full it was estimating around 220km of range but didn't seem to have been driven all that much so it could be off.

    Any sure-fire way to tell what size battery it has?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    Best get the VIN and check with Hyundai, but 220km's at around 50% of capacity would imply a full range of 440km, which would be in line with a 64kWh battery. But you need to be sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,532 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    One thing is for sure….with 50% consumed and an estimated range of 220kms, that's the 64kWh battery. The 39kWh would be well short of that range.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Also there's a fair difference in power between the two of them. I think the 39kWh is about 130bhp and the 64kWh is around 200 I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Thanks for the advice folks. Turns out every single listing I put in on Axa's checker from Donedeal and Carzone was showing as a 39kwh, so it seems to be a limitation on their end.

    EDIT: Got the VIN and used the service booker on Hyundai's site. It's showing as a 150kw motor, so unless the VIN I've been given is from a different car it seems to be a 64.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    That's only true if the utilisation of the vehicle was at normal driving speeds and efficiency prior to the sale. In theory you could have had a driver who only drove at 35km/hr and could have achieved 400kms out of a full charge on a 39kWh battery… then the range display could then show a range of 200kms at 50%. Unlikely, but it's best to be 100% sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭cython


    Have you tried motorcheck.ie? I put a Kona I know to be 64kWh through that and the preview correctly reports it:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,532 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    @10-10_20 ……

    Come on now….you’re reaching.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Forgot to reply. It was a 64KWh after all. The range in winter was meh, around 300-ish km but now that summer is here it's giving over 450km on a 100% charge. Pretty good for a 2019 car.

    The only major issue with it so far has been the 12v battery. Went flat (4v with the relays all going ballistic when I came back) once in April because I had the door left open and went away for 10 minutes, since then it's been a complete **** disaster. I must have jumped it at least 15 times since then, with increasing frequency. As soon as I get paid it's a new 12v battery.

    So to anyone else planning on getting an older Kona with the OEM batter still installed, One of those jump-start power banks is a must, as soon as the 12v goes flat once get prepared to replace.

    Only other small issue is the coolant went below the max level once, got a 2.5l bottle of coolant from a Hyundai dealer for €51. Topped up a little and it's been OK since then, have about 2.25L left.

    DC Charging speed it a bit meh, probably improved in the newer generation Konas. Top power is 77KW but it never starts at that, it takes about 15-20 minutes to ramp up to that rate. Usually 50 something KW. Usually have to manually stop the charge somwhere in the 70s at ESB chargers due to the 45 minute loitering fee.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Everything you describe is pretty much the car since new, there is no preconditioning of the battery so it would have to be the hottest day after a few hours driving before you can achieve that charging speed. The car will give an on screen warning if you are draining the 12v by leaving a door open for example or sitting in the car with AC on and car off. The HV battery continuously tops up the 12v now after an update (you will see the light on on the front of the car when it's doing it, light green from memory). Once the 12v goes flat like that it needs immediate replacement, it will never recover. Range is as when new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Has anybody had an issue with the GPS on the car?

    For the last month, my Navigation and Bluelink shows that I am Enniskillen, when I am in Sligo. It has done this before.

    Its not a huge problem as i wouldn't use the Hyundai nav anyway but as it thinks I am in the UK, it is converting all the road signs from what it thinks are miles to kilometres. So 50 has become 80, 80 has become 128 etc.

    From Googling it seems to be a fairly common issue around GPS spoofing that can only be fixed when the car decides to correct itself, resetting etc does nothing.

    Just wondering if there is anyone else that this has happened too?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Have you tried a hard reboot, disconnecting 12v battery for a while



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    Does it remain static in Enniskillen or does it move/jump around when the vehicle moves?

    If it's static then the GPS component might be faulty; if it's jumping around then it could be a signal issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭innrain


    Who would knew that in 6 years time the little car would still have something to surprise use with. A colleague took it to visit Giants Causeway from Dublin and the only charging they did was at Tesla SuC Sprucefield on the way back.

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    Never have seen such a flat curve. For a 2019 car I think it is brilliant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,912 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Looking at these Kone EVs, probably a 2021 or maybe 22.

    Is there a significant difference in the face-lift models, is it worth paying the extra for the newer model?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭mr chips


    Apparently there's a useful increase in the amount of rear room, so it depends on how much you value that. I've had to sit in the back of the older one for a short trip and I wouldn't want to be there for more than half an hour. Range in the face-lift one will be slightly better, and IIRC charging speed is up from 72kW to 100kW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭djan


    They mentioned 21/22 so probably talking about the facelift of the OG Kona. Not that much in it really apart from front bumper design and larger infotainment screen (can be retrofitted from aliexpress etc.).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭mr chips


    Ah ok, wasn't even aware the Mk1 Kona had had a facelift. Probably better to ignore everything I said in that case!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    An upgraded infotainment on my 2019 Kona would be nice. Is there a Kona specific one which integrates with the battery and such, or is it the standard Android head-unit upgrade?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭djan


    Not sure how it integrates, I know some allow for pass through of original video feed. Would be the usual screen with a Kona specific frame. I'd reccomend getting the 4Gb RAM versions something like this:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭kuro2k


    Kearys Hyundai Cork quoted me 300 EUR yesterday for the gear reduction oil change only.

    Anyone able to recommend an independent in Cork or Munster for the reduction oil change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Also looking for this. Bolands in Waterford wanting over €750 for the 60K service which is the first with a gear oil replacement (or at least it used to list that explicitly) - I would sooner drive a sewing needle through my knob with a sledgehammer than pay that much.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Hope the mechanic brings his glasses, a lot of inspecting going on there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,567 ✭✭✭obi604


    Tis some cod. I have 2 X electric cars, but these EV car services are really annoying. One of the reasons I moved away from ICE was reduced servicing. Now it’s nearly more to service an EV versus ICE. At least with an ICE you actually get real work done, oil, oil filter etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Of that list, and at the same mileage and even slightly more, Tesla will inspect all that at no cost AND replace any items under-spec or need changing, at no cost under warranty.

    And folks still buy Hyundai knowing these things and knowing about their refusal to accept the ICCU failures as systemic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    You are overestimating the buying public there. I think if you ask most of those buying a new Hyundai what an ICCU is, they will have absolutely no clue. People buy the car they want and like, most of the motoring public does no research on issues or problems beforehand. They see "new and shiny" and go for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Depending on the year the coolant alone could be 500 euro for materials. There is different coolant in different years with a recall and flush and different expensive non conductive coolant that needs changing. On older cars it was cheap for life coolant, but if it leaked in the battery area it was conductive so damaged electronics etc.



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