FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2024/2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

Shleeet on hills I'd say.

Wouldn't be surprised if winter is milder than the summer we just had

Hahaha

But when the likes of Athens gets snow it always seems to be a bad sign for us. As it shows the pattern is prone to a lack of proper cold for us while they get the cold.

Oh it is Bill, cold going the wrong direction.

It may be just me, but in my 5 decades or so on this planet, the xmas period in Ireland is the most reliable time of year to see above averge temps around the country

True I suppose for most of the last 50 yrs. Even the cold winter of 78/79 ,didn't really get going ( at least snow wise) till the very end of December. The following yr the last few days of December 1979 were cold. Even during the overall cold first half of winter 81/82 ,it got milder during the last week of December. Last week of December 84 was chilly I think and a few days in the last week in 85 we had a cold snap. Apart from that every Christmas period was mild during the 80s. Last week of December 1990 was chilly enough had a few wet snow showers on the 27th. 93 and 94 dont stick in my memory but I don't think they were mild?? Frosty spell for a few days end of December 92. Easily the coldest Christmas period of the 90s was 95 and would have been the coldest for many yrs. After that though until 2010 colder Christmas periods were more common. 96, 2000, think 2001 was chilly, brief cold snap Christmas eve to st Stephens day 2004. Cold snap for a few days last week of December 2005. Can't really remember 2008 but I don't think it was mild?? 2009 of course at the end of December. Very cold Christmas eve and day 2010 before the milder weather set in the next day. Since then i can only think of 3 yrs that had any cold weather in the last week of December. 2014,2017 and 2020.

GFS not as miserable in FI

Little change in latest GEFS. A little chiller at the turn of the month/year.

Every time I see there is a new post on this thread, I get a little tingle of anticipation, a quantum of hope, that maybe, just maybe there are some juicy charts far off in FI. But alas, no, close encounters of the mild kind, prevail.

Dear Father Christmas, if you're reading, all I ask for is some hope, you don't even need to deliver the goods, just give us the chase.

Any chance the high pressure will give us a bit more in the way of sunshine? I presume looking at the charts and it origin it will be another dull depressing cloudy affair .

Really hope we don't get a ssw later in February again which would more than likely lead to another poor spring.

Every time I hear you say you are giving model watching a break, my heart sinks. I know then all hope is gone. Was thinking of December 2010 when I was out for a walk, it just kept on giving…..even Christmas Day 2009, blue ice everywhere, I remember trying to walk down a country road and it was like a mirror of ice.

Thanks for that 👍 couldn't remember both yrs for some reason. Perhaps it could be said that colder periods became more common around Christmas from 1990 to 2010 rather then my initial thinking of 95 to 2010.