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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Verona certainnly won't be one as much as i think she is articulate, she seems to the type to be volatile



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I doubt that many of them would even need to be bought. Michael Lowry for example gives his support to FFG for free every time



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,540 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    To be honest I don’t see demands like the airport and development outside Dublin being a problem per se. It’s issues like that that are fueling the II party. We have to be developing outside Dublin. This is the huge elephant in the room in the country for tge last 30-40 years. It’s never really been adequately addressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    To be honest I don't know specifics as I have never had to call on them.

    But at a very general level the way I would look at it is stepping in where the main organs of state can't help you any more.

    Take the bus service between Kerry/Cork and Belfast of cataract treatment which they run with another independent from Cork.

    The waiting lists are long in the public health service so there is another way and the likes of the HRs help facilitate that other way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Dublin is already underserved by its infrastructure. The answer to regional differences isn't to deliberately make life worse for people in Dublin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Bacik is desperate for that Ministerial position, she'll really push for Labour to be in gov. She won't care about the consequences in 5 years, she sees this as her chance. Labour have never learned their lesson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    All this talk of the Soc Dems reminds me of the Labour election of 1992.

    They were the flavour of the month that time and though they had a good spells and kingmakers in both the FF and Rainbow governments they are today mostly irrelevant.

    People who were unhappy with the government for not being left enough but didn't want to support SF and had forgotten about Labour went with the SDs because they were young, slick operators, good speakers, saying all the right things etc

    It won't last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    If they are rural independents then those rural constituencies which don't have an Independent will benefit too with less anti-rural, less ideological politics. Note that these constituencies are constituencies of farmers but constituencies of small and medium sized towns with actual closely knit communities and the further you travel from the big smoke the truer that gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Yep, you have it in one! And by the looks of it, she isn't going to get it (thankfully)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭scrabtom


    All that pedophilia stuff is clear and blatant homophobia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,532 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Please give Patrick O'Donovan (on Claire Byrne atm) a main Ministry if you are reading FF.

    Insufferable, arrogant and the best weapon the opposition could get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭Seadin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Making life better outside Dublin does not guarantee that life inside Dublin will get worse

    Who cares, can we not just celebrate the fact that he's gone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    And as the final seats get filled that's all the hope Francie has left, ranting at the wireless, hoping that the new government give a TD from Limerick a ministerial position because Francis doesn't like the cut of his jib.

    And surely it's FG that will give him the job not FF

    He is a FG TD and they will be deciding whom of their TDs get a job.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Predictably focus is starting to turn towards Sinn Féin's relatively poor performance in many of today's papers. I really didn't see them having less seats than Fine Gael.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,532 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'FG FF stagnated their way to victory', - Fionnan Sheehan.

    A fair summary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    A lot of rural independents see any investment in Dublin as unjust. They want projects like Metrolink or DART+ cancelled under the erroneous impression that this will force people to move from Dublin to the West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    60 new TDs with no media training. Gaffs and faux-pas will be plentiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    They need a re-set. ML needs to step aside and give one of the younger bucks an opportunity to grow the party in to trying to become the largest party. They aren't a million miles off and their vote % is high amongst the younger generation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Metrolink is never happening anyway so don't worry too much about that. DART+ is just a rebrand of the existing services with slightly fancier trains so nothing to really get too excited about either.

    If both get "cancelled" there will be no major difference to the daily lives of most Dubliners



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    There's not a hope Fianna Fáil will axe Metro Link, particularly with so many new TD's being elected in north Dublin in particular and the first sign of a proper resurgence for the party in Dublin. It featured prominently in the campaigns of a number of their candidates as something they are progressing and committed to delivering. If they want to expand into 50 seats and beyond they will do so by taking further seats in the capital.

    The likes of Metro Link is already budgeted for in the National Transport Plan in anycase and money is already being set aside. Plenty of room to manoeuvre on the budgetary front without the need to curtail projects already in train.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,532 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I don't know the detail of MLMD's personal circumstances but enough has been aired to suggest that she has had a rough time.
    I think it would be a mistake for SF to be seen to throw her under the bus.
    Time enough mid term to consider changing.
    For now she is their best communicator and I would give her a lot of credit for righting the ship during the campaign. Even if it was occasionally evident she was not firing on all cylinders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Tipp North are about to begin a full recount because after 2 partial recounts Ryan and Smith were 1 & 2 votes apart.

    It all seems a bit futile though. Kelly and O'Meara are surely going to get those 2 remaining seats regardless of which of Ryan or Smith goes out in 5th.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭almostover


    I haven't a clue what you're talking about. All I know as fact is, as minister for integration who was in charge of the referendum earlier this year, he received advice from the AG that the wording of the proposed amendment around care was problematic and he suppressed that information from being made available to the voting public. It was leaked the day before the referendum much to his chagrin. He should have been relieved of his cabinet position at that point.

    I don't know anything about pedophilia or homophobia in relation to him. I know he is gay but that is inconsequential to his performance in his cabinet role in the previous government. He deceived the electorate and it's a pity that deceit wasn't punished by him losing his seat as a TD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,310 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Mary Lou to be shown the door by the boys in West Belfast.

    Shouting Pearse or Roaring David to take the helm. Neither of whom are any better.

    This was supposed to be the election that prompted change. From 37% in the polls 2 years ago, to 19% now…

    Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. People just dont trust the Shinners, not even others on the left.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    I'd agree, it would be astonishing if Smith's transfers put Ryan ahead of O'Meara.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    It won't be axed, it just won't be built. It will be delayed endless due to objections from people that want to see zero change.

    SF and FG vote held up a bit better than I expected so FF will be shy of the 50 seats that I thought they would get .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I have mixed feelings about Stephen Donnelly losing his seat. I think jumping ship from the Soc Dems to join FF, especially after making his name originally railing against FF on the Vincent Browne show, was completely unforgiveable. He also didn't seem to be particularly good at politics.

    However I have heard many people say that he was one of the more decent Ministers of Health in recent times (low bar I know). Unlike a lot of the previous occupants of that job he didn't have his eye on the Taoiseach's job in his future and so was able to commit to it in a way that they didn't. Everyone knows that that job is a poisoned chalice so obviously there are loads of things that you can point to that are wrong with the area currently but it seems like he was making improvements.

    The other high profile FF casualty then was Anne Rabbitte. I wonder how much of her losing that seat was down to her losing votes because of the criminal case against the farmer who threw dung at her. There were probably a lot of farmers who didn't like that and voted for Albert Dolan instead.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    The criminal case probably hindered Rabbitte, but the fact that Albert Dolan's father does the farm accounts for most of the farmers in east Galway is possibly the bigger factor at play! Very well known family in the farming community - 'one of our own' mentality at play I suspect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭Seadin


    They will have more seats than FG. 1 more seat I thought?



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