Irish voters 'hostile' to poppy symbol

Completely off topic post but very interesting thanks. :)

He is from the UK so fairly hard for him not to be involved in it's institutions. As for working there and holding a political view that is also his right as someone born in the UK.

My English friends all hate the poppy so should they fuk off out of the UK too ?

The Serbian Matic never got the same abuse for not wearing a poppy so it's very much an anti Irish fascism.

no it isn’t. McLean goes out of his way to be controversial.

When Grealish and Rice got a load of abuse for choosing England over Ireland, they kept their mouths shut and let the duat settle. McLean took to twitter to start goading the Northern Ireland fans.

I fail to see the relevance.

"he chose to make his living on the territory where military decisions he abhors were made"

He was literally born on the territory where military decisions he abhors were made.

Are you suggesting he should move because of it?

Should Alexei Navalny and the hundreds of thousands of Russians who oppose military decisions made in Russia have chosen to make their living elsewhere?

The goading you refer to was in response to death threats against him and his family.

Yes. Death threats.

Here is the goading you refer to verbatim:

"Love the dogs' abuse am gettin off shock N.I fans, just worry about watchin ur own country at the euros... oh wait #mybad #awkward haha."

what’s an official death threat?

Rice and Greslish both had threats against them and their family. As did Thierry Henry.

None of them decided to take to social media and stoke the flames.

Martin O'Neill wore one too once but he was living in England for most of the troubles so maybe it doesn't trigger him as much.

It is funny how people say it is just about WW1 and 2 yet there are TV adverts on about the British legion and have veterans on talking. If I want to honour my distant relatives who died I would go to the monument their names are on not wear a poppy to honour the military as a whole.

At what point do we stop honouring WW1 soldiers anyway? We don't honour all the men who died in wars centuries ago. In 200 years will people still be selling poppies harping on about WW1?

I have mixed feelings. It's true that many British soldiers participated in imperialism and war crimes. Its also clear that most today don't. There are still some Irish citizens that serve in British and other NATO armies.

Todays imperialism though is by Russia, not Britain. We should remember history but not prioritise it over the present and future.

I think most of the blame today regarding British involvement in Gaza rests with the politicians and those giving the orders. The export licenses are issued by politicians not soldiers. The intelligence sharing with Israel is on orders from the government.

I think the poll reflects the chasm in perceptions that in my opinion makes it difficult for a United Ireland to work. There are no signs Southern voters are willing to compromise on things about the other side that make us uncomfortable.

I think anti militarism in general, regardless of whose military it is, is another factor in the rejection not only of the poppy, but also of military commemorations generally by some on the Pacifist Left. There is an island mentality with many people when it comes to thinking these conflicts are far away and we dont need to be involved in them. If we are ever invaded again, that perspective might change, and we would likely rely on the army that we are criticising for our defence. That, ironically, is because of decades of underfunding of our defence forces, which the Labour party and the Greens have contributed to as coalition partners in several governments.

Presidential Connolly described herself as a pacifist in 2024. As president, she will be commander in chief of the armed forces. That's what she was elected for.

I noticed last night on ITV one of the soccer pundits had the smallest little poppy pin I'd ever seen, so small it was hard to say if it really was a poppy, but possibly a sign of an attempt to reign it in as a British nationalist symbol considering all the recent Fleg hysteria.

Poppies. It must be that time of year again. Getting closer to the 11th hour, of the 11th day, or the 11th month, when the armistice was called to end the Great War, and the guns fell silent. As hundreds of thousands lay dead on the battlefields of Flanders fields, only for hundreds of thousands of poppies to flower where the fallen lay dead. Tens of thousands of Irish men amongst them too.

Personally, now that we have a new President who strives to make a United Ireland a warm place for Unionists, I think it only right that we don't bash the symbol too much, and if people want to wear it fair enough. It means a lot to a lot of people, the white poppy too, or no poppy at all, each to their own.