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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    But that would be on the number plate number anyway not a green mark on the plate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    That wouldn't work EU wide though. Need something simple and easily identifiable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭zg3409


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    Hands up if you are guilty!



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Neither will some green mark, as there's nothing to stop you getting one made with it.

    London, for instance, there's no charge for electric, but you still have to pre register before you go in so you don't get charged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    There's nothing to stop you, but it's probably the most easily spotted fake out there. It's permanently on the car, everyone can see it and everyone can hear (and smell) your car.

    The green stripe numberplate has been out for a good while in the UK too. Introduced in December 2020.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Love the fact they padlocked it to the alloy. Brazen!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭zg3409


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    Interesting report, 42,000km, VW. I see lots of details you dont get on other cars such as standing time fully charged. The actual state of health is only "above 90%". I wonder will they add more restrictions over time to warranty to encourage owners not to leave at 100%? I assume real stare of health according to battery management system can be ready but this report hides this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I got a similar report after asking for it at the last service. It's very interesting they're tracking those statistics, obviously heading off potential warranty claims

    You can definitely read the actual capacity since I've seen people getting it via car scanner

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,326 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    interesting take on EVCPs, drop in EV sales = EVCPs are poor investment

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/1113/1480546-maxol-ceo-wants-cap-on-retail-floorspace-to-be-lifted/

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I'm not sure I'd agree with that assessment. They want to be sure they'll make a profit on any chargers installed and if EV sales are dropping then they're going to install fewer chargers

    Seems more likely they're shaking the begging bowl looking for more grants

    I'd agree that the concept of the forecourt shop needs to be revisited, however I don't really want to swap a small McDonald's for a larger McDonald's. It'd be better to include more amenities like play areas for kids, exercise or relaxation areas for adults

    Some higher quality food would also be welcomed

    I could see in the future forecourts becoming more like a smaller supermarket than just the shop attached to the pumps

    Post edited by liamog on

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Anyone heading over to the distinctly Irish sounding and looking O'Meara's in colorado?

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/ed31aba5-38ca-4f61-8a70-1bafcd9d0392/?aff=atempest&utm_campaign=atempest&utm_source=autotempest&utm_medium=trp&utm_campaign_id=1&utm_trusted=TRUE
    These F150 EVs are getting to be super cheap now. $35k at the bottom end. I'd say you could see that landed and registered including VRT and duties etc for well below 65-70k EUR now.

    I remember when EV pickups were the newest thing since sliced bread and they cost near enough to $100k new.

    As an EV fan and a fan of US vehicles (have owned many, currently have an 89 Dodge Ram 318 B250), I'm intrigued.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    They’d be very tempting at that price point. Am I right in think they’re could be an issue with kerb weight on these ? Would you need more than a B license to drive it here ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    No issue, the GVWR is less than 4.25t and as an N1 vehicle (which it is) you can drive an alternative fuels/ZEV up to 4.25t on a standard B licence.

    https://www.ndls.ie/about/licence-categories-and-codes.html#licence-categories



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I'd love to, all my car based stuff is tied up right now until the insurance resolves itself (am a month waiting now actually, and that was with the other party accepting liability).

    Once the insurance clears the finance I'll be buying something new, was planning on a stopgap (unless a certain model X remains available) and then buying something better next year. But I'm keeping a keen eye on these. I remember there was an F150 EV listed for 145k plus vat around a year ago in Ireland. You could conceivably import and register 3 now for that price.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    be interesting to see the insurance value payout, would you be tempted to buy back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    No, it's too far gone for an easy repair ( & I have enough "lawn ornaments" outside as it is 😁) and I'm in the hole for depreciation as it is anyway. It's a good opportunity for a clean break . I was never in love with a model 3 or having one to begin with.

    Hence why I'm looking at a potential cheap model X , or something stopgap (or just keep running my XC90+leaf combo) until next year and buy something different then. I wasn't planning to change this soon so I don't have the liquidity sorted just yet to do so. I have more maturing assets due next year so the situation will change then. As it stands I likely wouldn't pass the finance test to borrow for a car loan - for the type of car I'd want anyway - while the existing 875E per month tesla loan remains active on the ICB, so I need to wait for that first.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Yeah, hold off until new year, might be some bargains to hand with inventory at dealers, keep the UMC and charging cable though if being scrapped



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    EV sales dropping doesn't mean less EVs. It's just growing at a slightly slower rate. 2024 still on track to be the second best year ever for EV sales in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Absolutely true, that's why I mainly think it's Maxol shaking the begging bowl for more grant money

    I do understand the viewpoint that lower than expected EV sales would reduce demand on chargers, but it isn't like Maxol is installing hubs in marginal locations anyway

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    The nice fast chargers at Inver, Slieverue this morning. Lucky I wasn’t after a charge.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The model X I was after sold yesterday unfortunately. It was an X90D for sub 30k, a real bargain for someone out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    But was it an electric truck? It's gonna be some mess when one of them plugs in 🫣

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,311 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Was talking to a ex BMW dealer the other day. He was deadset against EV's not from a car point of view, but from a cost point of view. He said, they had a load of BMW i's that they cant seem to shift because they are too expensive. He knew a lot of people that bought high end EV's who lost huge amount of value on their cars over the past 18 months. People seem to have turned away from them.

    The crowd he works for now, wont take an EV as trade as well.
    He was saying one is much better off going for a PHEV. He had a lot of nice 2nd hand BMW 330e that looked lovely in fairness. He had a fair few Volvo XC40 plugins as well. He was saying that they will hold their value much better over the long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,311 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Forgot to mention was also talking to a BYD dealer. Mentioned that prices will go up in the new year because of the Tarrifs. Told him about the new BYD factory in Hungary, but he countered that that wont be online till later on in 2025.

    He said that BYD will absorb some of the 17%? cost of the tariffs but not all of it.

    Not sure if he was trying to secure a deal for a Jan 151 car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Is this an ex employee or ex dealer? He had a load of 330e and xc40, of course he'll tell you they're good value.

    Both nice cars and I actually think a decent range PHEV is a good choice for people but as a stop gap.

    After having a PHEV 530e and now having 2 full EVs, I'm not going back.

    PHEV is the best and worst of both worlds at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Nearly every single new car loses a fortune in depreciation. Has been that way since forever

    Time is contagious, everyone is getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭creedp


    I think that the covid lockdown and other supply related problems leading to restricted supply of new cars led some people to buy into the industry promoted view that EVs were the new blue chip investment with stories of negative depreciation abounding including on here.

    People paid way over the odds for new cars and were biting the hands of people to buy used cars at prices often exceeding the price of the car when new. Unfortunately the long run depreciation norm has returned and has bit these 'investors' hard leading to an unwarranted backlash against EVs. Inevitably this backlash will also recede in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yeah exactly there was very little depreciation from 2019 to 2022/23 and appreciation in some cases, now the market is correcting

    I've 2 x 2022 reg EVs that have dropped a good bit, the one I bought new was 42k and the cheapest asking price for a 22 is now 26k, so that's 16k or about 40% in just over 2 years. I was offered 24k by the same dealer so that's 18k or 45% cost to me. Not a million miles from ballpark I have always used of 50% in 3 years. Maybe slightly over but not much.

    However, the same car is now 37k new so if someone buys one today and gets the same 24k offer after 2 years that's around 33% which should come in under 50% in 3 years.

    I don't think I would have fared much better on a new PHEV at 40k in 2022.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,311 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    True, but the last 2 years has been particularly nasty for EV owners who bought nice new EV's. Lost a fortune on them.
    Good for the consumer though.



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