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Irish Rail New Proposed Timetable - August 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I must be one of the few that this new timetable has worked out for. Long story short, thanks to the new Enterprise services I’m starting and finishing work a half hour later, but I’m leaving the house a half hour later and still getting home at the same time. That extra half hour in bed helps a lot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    It seems someone decided that Connolly exists primarily for the Belfast intercity, and the other services are imposters, which should halt at Clontarf, Drumcondra and Pearce. They spent €255 million and didn't lay a metre of track for that. Makes me puke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Exactly but with that gap to allow for the service.

    It should be noted that when the hourly service starts, things will more than likely get worse again.

    Surprising that this is happening, given how stretched everything currently is.

    My "guess" is someone in government made this commitment along with someone in the equivalent role in N.Ireland.

    NIR and Irish Rail just got told, "Make this happen" and now we have the mess we have.

    We'll never find out the name of the person/people that said "Make this happen"

    Ultimately Connolly needs 3 or 4 more platforms, and that's just the way it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    You won't get any more platforms. Any space they had has been sold off to developers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Aye
    And no one wants to upset them. CPO needs to happen now, before someone builds a massive hotel(s) on then land

    Usual rubbish though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,668 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    We do know where it is coming from.

    The hourly Belfast service is an initiative of the two railway companies, but backed financially by the NI Executive and the Department of An Taoiseach through the Shared Ireland fund.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    So from our perspective, this is the fault of Michael Martin, Leo Varadkar and Simon Harris?
    Am I correct in saying that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    29s are back on the Bray route. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    CPO would take ten years from conception to possession.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,588 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    IIRC there was a plan for a platform 8 in one of the Dart+ documents

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    If you look at Google maps, there's space on the approach to 7 to hang an extra loop over the car park of the failte building right up to the turntable, and possibly beyond if they redesigned 5 to 7 and pushed them east. Otherwise it would be a short stop, 4 cars maybe. Big project to move the others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Fingal TD Joe O'Brien has posted a video on Facebook saying the problematic commuter timetables will largely revert back to the pre August schedules on Oct 14th and will be available to view from Oct 7th. Surprised this isn't being reported more widely.

    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14spCuqZtW/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,046 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    I noticed the additional Belfast service have stopped selling tickets online and it's more or less just the normal timetable available to buy tickets. Others just show sold out.

    If they end up dropping the hourly Belfast service I will be very suprised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,668 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Presumably Iarnród Éireann were going to announce it themselves when they’re ready - sounds like he’s jumped the gun (but then there’s an election coming of course!).

    Post edited by LXFlyer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,734 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Due to uncertainties around the final safety sign off for Belfast Grand Central all the 'extra' trains are shown but blocked from booking until confirmation comes through. 14th is now the best estimate, it was to be 7th



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Daith


    TDs are probably getting it in the neck from their constituents, so I can see why they would want to announce something rather than wait for IE to officially announce it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Gerlad


    IMG_5473.png

    Note from Labour petition



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    New timetable now pushed back until the 14th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Gerlad


    Hope Maynooth is reverted along with the Northern line



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Pre 10am mostly going back to the old timetable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Whatever about the move back to the old morning times which is good , I hope the one thing they keep is the evening Longford service from Pearse or GCD. Numbers have been really good, far better than when it was running out of platform 3 in Connolly

    Post edited by thomasj on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭Glaceon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Had to happen, people were going nuts… and not just a few people.

    Doesn't look good, I think higher ups and politicians are now finally aware of the issue that Irish Rail have more than likely been telling them about for years now.

    DART are 40 years old and we need new ones, Northern line is at 100% capacity during busy period… We need new Infra. (and not signaling systems, we need track and new platforms)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I don't this agree but can you add more track to some of the north side dart routes. I'd say there is no room at Malahide, Portsmouth, Raheny, Harmonstown, Killester, Clontarf, Tara Street etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭thomasj




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭antimatterx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    I am personally delighted they are reverting the timetable. Since the new timetable, the M3/Dockland commuter line is absolutely disastrous in the morning. Train is dangerously over crowded. this morning people were understandably arguing and pushing each other off at each stop to make space for people to get off/back on. Absolute carnage. Coming from What was once a pleasant enough journey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭deezell


    Here's my Theory. They just opened a massive new central station in Belfast. They probably needed much more traffic for the political optics. I'm wondering if the schedulers, whom I would expect to be cautious about even minor changes due to the law of unexpected consequences, became pissed off with unworkable large scale changes. Probably after their protests were overruled, they decided to go along with it as the best way of getting it binned. They must have absolutely known it would be a disaster, they have all the modelling software, but someone at executive level demanded it be done. It's Done now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,046 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Yet still no explanation of what caused this disruption and how it was missed during the process.

    Someone also needs to let IE know, it is industry norm to commence timetables on a Sundays in December or June. Not Mondays in August, September and October.

    Equailly here TDs might just have learned that track infrastructure is a major issue. That Howth shuttle proposed for a few years time. Will unlikely get passed either to allow N Commuter be expanded as part of DART+.



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