Irish Rail New Proposed Timetable - August 2024

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122637327#Comment_122637327

Amusingly enough IE's primary planning software is indeed graph-based, but as with anything, it takes skill to actually read through those.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122635323#Comment_122635323

You should see the 5.27, as it's a passenger service.

5.15 makes the 5.57 Maynooth to Connolly, 5.45 makes the 6.27 Maynooth to Connolly and 5.20 makes the 6.10 from M3 Parkway.

Times changed now, obviously. 😂

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122634319#Comment_122634319

he's not to blame for an NTA/irish rail screw up.

it is FFG who are implementing the stuff he gets blamed for, stuff he has no actual say in.

those are just the facts.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122641079#Comment_122641079

How is it the NTA’s fault? Is it not entirely down to Irish Rail?

deezell

Oh, but he's pushing the agenda, especially in intercity terms where he has prevented funding for necessary safe roads, while dreaming about fast frequent electric rail links to everywhere. That level of infrastructure has a 100 year hole in it, as all that happened in that time was depopulation, deterioration and closure. What he (and I too) would like to see is over a generation away, unless we hand the entirety of the project and the executive power to build it to an Asian expert, like they did in Serbia, for a fraction of the cost in a fraction of the time. Up to 200kph trains, the journey from Dublinovich to Galwayski or Sligograd would take little over an hour and ten. That's journey times for many commuters these days on local routes. I'd have respect for him if he owned up to the complete lack of experience and ability we have in this area, instead of pushing a creaking overloaded system beyond its capacity.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122641134#Comment_122641134

he isn't preventing funding for necessary safe roads nor has he prevented such.
the necessary safe inter city roads have happened, with only cork to limerick outstanding and that is happening eventually.
he isn't pushing anything, he has no actual say, he was actually quite lucky to get the pt projects through he did get through and thank jesus he managed it.
lol if you think the surbians got their infrastructure for a fraction of the cost and a fraction of the time scale to build it, they got simple PFI and will be paying it off for many many decades at high interest rates and a high cost.
again i understand you are annoyed that you are going to have to pay the full costs of using your car but that's life, we have been getting away without paying in full for way too long and now the chickens are coming home to roost and we have to pay what we owe, that's down to FFG.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122641538#Comment_122641538

I understand you are annoyed that you are going to have to pay the full costs of using your car ..

Where have you got this statement from? It sounds like something out of an AI letter writing bot's arse, with the 'patronising put down' option ticked. I have always paid the full cost of my car ownership, plus all the excise and taxes on the vehicles and the fuel, an appropriate 45%+ to the exchequer, but at no point have I complained. King Canute would have a better chance in his endeavours that we would in reducing this particular imposition.

I'm quite happy to pay these costs, because I can, because I've earned them, and I'm not comfortable with subsidies that distort markets, industry, leading to waste and corporate laziness. The ESB €0.4 Billion debacle was paid for out of your 'light bill', as it was known as in my childhood. How is this related to car ownership? It reminds me of the East German communists attempts to present a superior front to democracy, with so many state subsididues and interventions that normal competitive practice ceased to exist. The pork farmers there benefitted though, as the almost 100% subsidised bread industry was used as a source of animal feed as it was so much cheaper than corn meal. They had the best fed pigs in Europe at the time, cheap bread, plenty of pork and SFA else. You think this green style manipulation doesn't have unintended consequences? Of course it does. There's three questions in my repy, should be enough for the bot to generate a vague and patronising reply with.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122641609#Comment_122641609

Are you on a roll over?

Citizen Six

I know it’s not timetable related, but sounds like chaos on the northern line again this morning.
Just when you think it can’t get any worse, it does.

deezell

If it's not broken, fix it anyway, and refuse to back down. Grandson commuting from Clontarf Road to Sydney parade says its gone desperate, every day. Late, then Stop, start, stop, start. The Dart is now the Fart, and an old man's one at that.

lawred2

Another week same sh!t

Commuter sitting on the tracks outside Connolly for about ten minutes

antimatterx

SSouthbound ervices started late this morning because engineering works ran over last night.

The difference a month can make.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122623742#Comment_122623742

I work in Blackrock and the location of the signs are terrible. They cannot be seen 3 feet away as the station sign partially obscures it. And yeah, you get the usual "Important notice &%8nsb… &%8nsb…&%8nsb…&%8nsb… &%8nsb… &%8nsb…&%8nsb…&%8nsb…" and "The lifts are broken at M50 Parkway". Have you SEEN that stop? You are SCREWED if you have mobility issues and need the lift

bluedex

Why didn't they just leave the original timetable, or revert back to it? The Maynooth/Longford/Sligo line is a total sh1tshow now.

antimatterx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648536#Comment_122648536

isn't the hourly Belfast route the cause of all the issues

Bodan

They should reopen Broadstone for the Sligo line, that would take a lot of traffic away from Connolly

Glaceon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648807#Comment_122648807

They wanted to, but the government insisted on giving it to Luas instead.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648825#Comment_122648825

The could still move Maynooth commuters to the lower canal line. Stick a pair of platforms at Binn Bridge to match Drumcondra stop, cheap, no footbridges or lifts required as its below grade, just a bit of digging into Whitworth place and the canal embankment. A few more platformds down at the North strand, then a pedestrian walkway up to platform 6/7, or just walk 500m to the old commuter entrance and reopen that to connect. They could still run some Maynooth up the spur off peak to 7. They did it often enough in the 80s and 90s. Maynooyhbtrainscthen become immune to Belfast, Drogheda, Dart etc.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648825#Comment_122648825

They didn’t want to.

That was a solo run by the late CIÉ Executive Chairman John Lynch who wanted to stop the RPA getting the land.

Pure politics.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648807#Comment_122648807

All Sligos stop at broom bridge now anyway. That’s close enough for you, right?

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648807#Comment_122648807

It would be a tad tricky given that the entire trackbed from Broombridge is used by LUAS now.

Ben D Bus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648807#Comment_122648807

The Strategic Rail Review proposes a line connecting the Sligo line around Maynooth to the Cork line around Adamstown, and bringing Sligo Intercity into Heuston, leaving the Maynooth line largely for DART.

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https://assets.gov.ie/304857/a28a40ec-85ea-4072-b239-3c7454ed61af.pdf

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122649885#Comment_122649885

Great, if I'm lucky the final map for that will be approved in time to inscribe on my headstone. My kids will be retired before that one happens. It probably will though, there's a very clear path that could be used past Celbridge, and there's already fast and slow lines in place to mix commuter and intercity most of the way. Give me the 12Billion and a big stick, I'll have it done in 5 years, along with the new airport in Baldonnel (which will finance our new Jet Airforce to keep manners on the Ruskies). If we don't dream...

thomasj

Credit where credit is due , I took the 17.09 GCD Longford at Tara street , and the numbers were really good. For the first 4 carriages of the 8 car train 90% seats were taken with a few standing . Didn't see the other half. A good few got on the train at Tara Street.

Such a difference where if you were getting a train 5-5.30 you'd have to rush to Connolly even run to platform 3 to catch a train. I can see this service doing well.

Citizen Six

Word on the street is the old timetable is coming back, with the Belfasts slotted in, after the oireachtas committee meeting next week.

loyatemu

I don't have the greatest of confidence in Irish Rail at the best of times, but I'm still baffled as to how they could get this so catastrophically wrong.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122651879#Comment_122651879

Someone had a grand dream, but the reality was different. Sacrificing daily customers who spend may €1200+ annually for occasional midweek intercity passengers who maybe spend €60 annually is a clear case of wrong priority. The Dart and Western commuter pays its way, so let's fk them up royally to have this vanity hourly Belfast service. Run the Belfast trains down the North Wall Spur to the little used Docklands, just need to extend the spur. They can catch the Luas from there.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122651932#Comment_122651932

Some in Irish Rail makes the decision to screw the commuters to get a minor increase in leisure timed Sligo trains in the summer, for probably 9.99 advance tickets and whatever kids pay (they swap a 7 car 22k for a 4 car, so the 7 can go later and take more leisure passengers); so they have form in chasing this

trellheim

Surely the maynooth trains could be deconflicted by running them along the royal canal and up into Connolly that way ? Yes you miss Drumcondra but that seems to be the only downer here.

thomasj

Sure you could run them into platform 7 even using Drumcondra , has been done in the past. Resulted in much shorter waits there just straight in.