Irish Rail New Proposed Timetable - August 2024

lawred2

Ah hahaha now I see what I did. Case of Monday morning there. :)

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716794#Comment_122716794

Eh, yes! :-)

lawred2

Well on the commuter now and standing still on the tracks outside Connolly.

Same old

bikeman1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716849#Comment_122716849

To be fair, Connolly station has always been full and trains get held at Connolly waiting their path in. Without making a brand new station with extra platforms and doubling the loop line bridge (definitely not going to happen), then this will always be the case.

Going to a new or old timetable won't change this. The place is full in the peak.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717574#Comment_122717574

That's why I said same old.

We're a pound shop country

devnull

How is it that the first trains of the morning are continually leaving terminuses late?

Are drivers cutting it too fine to leave the depot in the morning to position their trains at their starting point or is there something else going on here?

thomasj

Theres a working timetable where trains leave Depots/connolly empty at published times to get to the terminus to start the first service. It might be an issue there with timings .

LXFlyer

We are also now into leaf fall season, and the first trains of the day often suffer the most with adhesion problems on the tracks. That is probably not helping matters.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122721086#Comment_122721086

It hasn’t been too bad yet this year.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122721099#Comment_122721099

Don’t jinx yourself! :-)

antimatterx

I saw low rail adhesion mention in a indo traffic update this morning

Jamie2k9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122721086#Comment_122721086

No that is an excuse, pre new timetable there was not multiple trains delayed every morning positioning/first service.

Same applies to last winter.

Its now normal and accepted by IE to have these type of delays.

trellheim

We're talking about pulling out of Heuston and Ceannt on time here its not adhesion….

Jamie2k9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716767#Comment_122716767

More drivers always good however I beleive a good compromise could be acheived.

I would be suprised if there is significent traffic volumes between Park West-Adamstown on this service. They could defer the 19:45 by 10-15m to close the gap.

The same going north, all these stops have an hourly Heuston service yet there is a sudden rush of traffic after 10pm that justifies this service stopping everywhere.

Maybe I am completly wrong and there is high traffic at these stations and large traffic flows between Athy/Carlow!

Stonekeeper2024

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122719153#Comment_122719153

Which the electorate voted for. Over and over and over and over again they picked short term tax cuts and 10ers and 20s on welfare rates, from the late 1990s to the present, over long term investments. You reap what you sow. It's the same as our shoddy defence infrastructure and relying on the RAF for our air cover with no clear chain of command if some depressurised airliner with nobody controlling it needed to be shot down to stop it crashing into a city when it runs out of fuel…the 10er on the pension and the tax cut people barely noticed were more important, and as any TD will tell you, national security is NEVER EVER brought up at the door, neither is infrastructure..this is the result. Were still doing it, look at any comment section and you'll see peoples top priority is to get rid of USC despite it being the most fair tax ever invented here and people welcome throwing 100s at various interest groups to buy an election.

You reap what you sow.

lordleitrim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122723392#Comment_122723392

I'd dispute infrastructure never being brought up at the door when candidates call. I live in an outer suburban Dublin town that is being overwhelmed by 1000s of new homes but without corresponding additional road or public transport improvements. The residents and community pages on Facebook constantly cry out for better public transport and infrastructure over any other item or issue and any local councillor or TD page i follow seem to be fielding those grievances above any other. If I'm ever chatting with neighbours or even small talk with strangers in the locality, the same such deficits often come up in conversation. People do see public transport and infrastructure as a priority for quality of life improvement.

ILikeBoats

First journey on the new old timetable today. Late arriving in my station. Late arriving in destination. Great to be back

Ireland trains

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/travel/2024/10/14/dublin-belfast-rail-users-put-out-by-return-of-old-timetable/
Love how there wasn’t one article about how the timetable change benefitted people, until the second it’s reversed.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122724407#Comment_122724407

How late?

Glaceon

I've been put out since the timetable reverted, I'm back to leaving the house at 6:35 for the 07:05 out of Drogheda.

I had a rough evening but it was partly my own fault. The 17:21 Pearse to Drogheda was a 4-piece 29k and was already jammed by the time it arrived into Connolly. I couldn't get on it (and with my knees being bad I didn't want to chance it), so I went to get the 17:50 to Belfast instead. Only it wasn't there. My mistake was that I went to get the 17:53 Connolly to Drogheda instead, but in the meantime an ICR arrived into platform 2. I wrongly assumed that they wouldn't turn it around quickly and stayed where I was, only for the 17:50 to leave ahead of me a few minutes late. So it took me almost 3 hours to get home from work.

antimatterx

Still not back to the performance pre August 26th. Darts are late every single day southbound as a result of late commuters.

lawred2

Stationary dart between clontarf and Connolly

Easily approaching ten minutes stationary now

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122724356#Comment_122724356

100%

Irish governments and councillors live in the here and now. Short term seat watchers responding to whatever the latest drama is.

Only have interest in short term projects or photo shoots that they can take the credit for. They've no interest in long term planning and actually following through on it as it's only future politicians that'll get the credit.

The key is to appear like you care not that you actually care.

lawred2

Old timetable

Same abject service. Low standards in all walks of Irish public life tolerates this crap.

deezell

Belfast hourly up and running, so every movement in Connolly now is secondary to a half hourly Belfast arrival or a departures. Factor in delays in either of these and the Sligo plus commuter traffic has a very narrow window left in any hour.

antimatterx

Yeah it's not been good. Last night after they tweeted the signalling faults had been rectified they let us bored a train at Connolly only to arrive at Clontarf and tell us that because if signalling faults the Dart is cancelled.

I mean ffs, I have more options to get home from the city center than Clontarf. It's been absolutely shambolic since August.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778010#Comment_122778010

Not true - DART is prioritised above all other services including the Enterprise.

The hourly Enterprise really ought not to cause as much difficulty as people think from a scheduling perspective, outside of the morning peak.

I don’t know how bad the leaf fall is this year in terms of adhesion issues on the rails but it is safe to say that it’s unlikely to be helping matters.

trellheim

Correct me if I'm wrong but arent the new NI services just extensions of the existing services that were going or coming from Dundalk/Drogheda anyway ..

On that basis surely they were in the timetable for Connolly anyway and dont make any extra odds ? As LXF says.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122778562#Comment_122778562

They have in some cases replaced Dundalk trains, or have replaced Drogheda-Dundalk extensions, but a good few are additional paths.

deezell

The August timetable when they were introduced caused mayhem. This was a vanity project to support and justify the new Belfast Central station, and it's consequences were not thought through. There were massive delays to Dart and at the western junction into Connolly. It's not a coincidence. Thar level of Intercity needs dedicated access, a fast track at least.