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How Bout Dem Bears?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭rodders999


    Rudderless is being kind….every yard gained as been an absolute slog. Nothing easy out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    We are going nowhere with Eberflus. A really good DC but an absolutely shocking head coach who should have been canned in January. He's in way over his head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Being a bears fan is groundhog Day. Williams looks very poor under pressure, and he's always under pressure. We've been here before.

    My prediction is that we spend the season hearing that we need to be patient with him, and that the o line is letting him down. Then they'll fire eberflus, do nothing about the o line and bring in a new coach who doesn't feel any obligation to Williams, and will be allowed draft another QB, probably in 2026. That will be that coach's last chance before we get a new defensive head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Crazy to think we'd be 0-3 if Will Levis didn't make that moronic pass attempt.

    The Vikes and Packers are dealing with adversity at the QB position, but despite that they have winning records due to competent coaching, while once again we are falling over ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    How did I forget the Steelers? 3-0 with Justin. I'd like us to hire a good head coach at least once more in my lifetime.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Yeah, I did wonder if they should've moved on from Eberflus after last year, and right now it looks like they should've. Just mistakes and sloppiness in every aspect of the game.

    I thought Caleb did fine in the circumstances. Accurate mid-range passes. Some long passes were off-target, but part of it was QB and receiver not being on the same page (again, could've been coaching). Some was timing, but I think it's hard to get your timing right when the offensive-line is falling apart so badly.

    One thing I like with him is his guts and mental-toughness to stay in the pocket when it's collapsing. Yeah, sometimes it costs him, and he takes a sack, but long-term I think it's good, getting those reps.

    It used to drive me mad with Fields, he would run out at the first sign of pressure. You just never learn that way. And I think in general, you see that more these days, with college QBs not used to pro-style offenses.

    I was pretty depressed at half-time, but I thought in the second half, things improved (for Caleb and Odunze, I'm not giving the coaches a pass). Good to see Odunze having a good game after being very quiet for the first two. Their first touchdown together was a cool moment! (until the coaching-staff blew it seconds later, getting confused about going for 1 or 2, forcing them to take a timeout, then running some crap play to miss the 2-point conversion)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Happy for Justin, I root for him. But it is funny, his sudden success outside of Chicago. Darnell Mooney as well, seems to be doing well in Atlanta.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    It does seem like that, but I still think it's different this time, because they've never had a talent like Williams. If things don't improve drastically, Eberflus is gone at the end of the season. But amid all the terrible team play, I still see enough in Williams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Caleb Williams' best plays from 363-yard game vs. Colts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Oh I think Williams is definitely a good player who will work out to be a success in the league. But I just think the bears are making all the exact same mistakes as they did with trubisky and fields, starting with the decision to keep eberflus and then, in all probability, fire him next year. Don't get me wrong, that's probably the right decision next year, it's just that it should have happened before drafting Williams. But the bears like to take it one scapegoat at a time.

    The worst thing, worse than the terrible o line, is watching Montgomery every week in Detroit, thinking about how much we paid to have Swift be the third best RB on the team, and they just will not accept they made a mistake with him. Could have gotten an o line guy or two for that price, and had Johnson playing much, much better.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Yeah, better to be starting fresh, give the coach 2-3 years, to develop alongside the QB. As it is, you could have a lame-duck coach midway through the season, and then change everything next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    "Bears head coach Matt Eberflus said they anticipate Keenan Allen will be able to go on Sunday."

    (https://x.com/kfishbain/status/1839734008504008737)

    That should help a lot.

    Surprised to see the Bears are 3-point favourites, against a Rams team that beat the 49ers last week (I didn't see it, but just looking at the score). They are pretty banged up apparently, no Puka Nacua or Cooper Kupp. But they still have Sean McVay and Stafford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    From what I heard the 9ers were well on top and shat the bed. It happens. 3 points is what the bookies give for home advantage so that's all but saying it's a coin toss between two bad teams. I think a loss for us at this point would be a major nail in the seasons coffin already so it's a huge game for us to win. On the other hand if we see more improvement from Williams and signs that OC is learning (such as playing our best running back instead of our most expensive one), then we can say there's progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    I was wondering if something like that happened, didn't seem to make much sense, the result and this week's line. I might watch it this evening on Gamepass.

    Re: the OC, yeah, I guess it is still early days, and it could take a little bit of time for his system to bed in.

    I'd like to see some improvements on the offensive-line, I think this is coaching too. You see mixups in blocking assignments, blitzes not being picked up, too many false-start penalties. The offensive-line coach should be on the hot-seat too. Hopefully they can improve some of some of this this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    The weird thing is the o line coach was one of the only guys to survive firings at the end of last season. No idea why that was tbh. Along with his failure to recruit decent talent on the line, it's borderline believe from poles at this point, all the more shocking from a former o line player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    I was looking him up:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morgan_%28American_football%29

    Seems he was promoted to from 'Offensive line-coach' to 'Offensive line coach & run game coordinator'!

    I guess he is feeling the heat, must be close to the two worst units in the league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Watching the performance of the offensive line today, it's worse we are getting (Jenkins or no Jenkins). Just embarrassing, between penalties and just terrible play. It would be so cool to watch a bears team with a competent offense. What is wrong with our organisation that they just can't bring themselves to do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    The defense is so unbelievably good though! Just a team of beasts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Howbout that DeAndre Swift? I for one never doubted him



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Tory Taylor punting from our 26 and pinning the Rams inside their 10 was ridiculous. Serious weapon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The Bears offering Brady $10m in 2020 is very on-brand. Tampa paid him $27.5m.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I know the Panthers aren't good but the bears offense has been ticking along nicely, they got Moore going early, Williams looks very composed, o line looks better. Defense has been solid despite some difficulty stopping the run. Progress.

    Felt bad for Swift being taken out there on the one yard line after he was the one who did most of the work to get them there. He looked pissed off, understandably!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Made up for it on that one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭rodders999


    Moving forward on every single offensive play, so refreshing.

    Williams with time on the ball to do damage and boy is he.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah and he's just much more aware. He is also very calm under pressure, like you can see he feels the sacks coming but he doesn't panic, knows when to run and when to stand up and find a pass. He probably will take a few sacks doing that but overall he isn't dishing shadows or getting caught on the hop. There's bigger and better defensive lines coming for him later in the season but these are not exactly a bad bunch either.

    I'm the worst kind of fan for changing my entire view if the team based on their performance THIS WEEK, but you can definitely see progress on offense in the jar two weeks compared with the first three weeks. Very promising that the o line has been the best I've seen it in a long time, but the bar was very low for them in fairness, they could only get better. But credit where it's due. Waldron seems to learn from his mistakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,731 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The throw to DJ for the TD before half time was absolutely crazy. Looked off the safety. Didn't step into it. Didn't rifle it. Just flicked it and it traveled about 45 yards through the air. What an arm.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    Wow, yeah, I didn't notice that he didn't step into it. Good to see him and DJ Moore developing a bit of chemistry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    That was funny:

    https://x.com/BoogCB/status/1842991120848224342

    “We got f*cking fire man”

    I thought Jonathan Vilma was decent on the co-commentary. Normally when something like that happens, you get a prudish apology.

    But Vilma said: “Apparently, they have a fire, Kenny,”

    Kenny Albert: “Sounds like it. Call in the authorities.”

    https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/kenny-albert-jonathan-vilma-hot-mic-bears.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    This has been a really poor performance from Williams and the o line. We're just not there yet when it comes to good teams, and our division is too strong. I think Williams is our guy but there's work to be done.



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