Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

With sweden, one of the smartest, wealthiest and progressive countries in the world has failed to integrate refugees into their society. What hope does that leave for everyone else. Is there any country that has successfully dealt and integrated significant numbers of asylum seekers. The swedes were one of the go to nations during the Syrian war. They changed there openness on the back of been unable to handle the sheer numbers of refugees and what was happening to the country. Would that not raise some questions around the trajectory this country is on albeit a time lag of 8 years versus the swedes. It's easier to manage a few thousand refugees a year. When you have a refugee number the same as the population of Leitrim landing on your shores every year how do you think Ireland can handle that successfully

Poor Paul Collins (Remcoll) in last night's PT investigates - Sadly 'it seems' he left the country (as it wasn't safe) - You'd really feel sorry for his predicament as he was likely only trying to do his best to help his fellow human beings, because that's just the sort of a guy Paul is…until you dig a bit deeper into Paul's involvement in the refugee scam. He's been knee-deep in this racket for years and has likely made 10's and 10's of millions (if not 100's of millions) on the back of it.

Will we see a PT investigates on Paul's net worth and how he got there in the future? - Will we ****!

The profane amount of money being redirected from the state to these 'connected ones' is reminiscent of some completely corrupt little African country riding the population into oblivion

The Crown Paints site owned by Townbe -

"Cork developer Paul Collins and Tanya Hennigan are listed as directors of Townbe Unlimited Company".

https://www.thejournal.ie/coolock-site-asylum-seekers-owner-crown-6443214-Jul2024/

https://gript.ie/coolock-group-believes-proposed-ipas-site-owners-likely-considering-injunction/

Tanya Hennigan (co-director) seems lovely too

As Carol Nolan Ind TD, stated -

Independent TD Carol Nolan has described the latest revelations regarding huge payments being made to providers of asylum accommodation as ‘the clearest confirmation yet that Ireland is The Orient Express of gravy trains’ for a growing number of private providers.

https://gript.ie/ireland-is-the-orient-express-of-gravy-trains-in-regard-to-asylum-payments-says-td/

"The Orient Express of gravy trains" - You go girl! - Fantastic description. There's a TD that you could put your house on being re-elected

I know I've quoted Gript media twice there and I'm a bad, bad man for doing so, but it's just I couldn't find anything about Paul Collins business adventures in the IT or where the truth matters, and I'm a curious sort of a guy

Ah lads, is anyone able to read this thread? It's down a week now

Hopefully you'll see this. Your comment is on page 607.

A few of you here are of the opinion that the big winners from last night's documentary are the government. I can't see any way whatsoever that they've come through smelling of roses or even bathroom air freshener. The failure to accommodate immigrants is their fault, the failure since the economic crash to restore policing numbers is their fault (and it's been Fine Gael in government ever since then after we gave Fianna Fáil Fail the heave-ho), and the failure to handle racist packs of thugs acting lawlessly* is their fault.

Not sure of people's feelings about Sinn Féin here, but what's their policy on immigration?

Also, there wasn't a whole load of content there about the peaceful protesters, but there was a little. And there's no doubt they exist, of course, but it's always going to be minority of scumbags that make the headlines, and it's important we saw them last night. Important too, no doubt, for some people who might now realise what kind of brute they're dealing with.

And the racist abuse of the chap who'd been living in Ireland for 18 years and was in the local elections said it all, really. Whoever was giving him abuse was not concerned at all with his migrant status and more bothered by the colour of his skin.

*To be clear, thugs acting lawlessly is the thugs' fault.

I suppose I should clarify my reasoning for saying I felt the government were the winners. We all know they don't have control on either justice or immigration, but unfortunately it doesn't really (currently at least) effect a large percentage of their voter base. Equally the programme also painted anti immigration protesters as racist thugs so this will reduce the amount of people who may have been tempted to vote independent or other right wing party. Therefore after watching last night, many people will realise there isn't a viable option and contuine with the status quo of voting ff or fg.

Now that sounds a bit like blaming the Irish government for the rioting we saw last year or indeed what we witnessed in coolock.

Would you agree with that? Or is it only agreeable when it suits your bias?

Personally I think its more political nonsense from weak politicians that are terrified of saying anything that could be considered "racist".

I'm not glossing over anything, the actions of a few individuals in the programme was vile and shocking. I just wouldn't be believing the poor man developer story, protrayed around the Coolock site.

Things were witnessed here in Newtown too that didn't make sense, items left unattended, lax security, difference was we didn't fall into their traps and watched out for people who may. So they concocted the fake resolution meeting organised by the gardai, the developer gave word he would cease work, the protest dropped their guard and a convoy of gardai, trucks and equipment rolled in the dead of night, taking the protest camp by surprise. And we were told afterwards, that the morning arrival was all at the behest of O'Gorman who told D.Harris it was to be done immediately and went over the heads of local senior gardai.

Of course that probably all falls in the anecdotal territory, but it all happened, and makes me question everything I see that is spun by the authorities and the media.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. You need eyes wide open to see the bigger picture. Despite all the vile words, the abuse, the damage to property, the real evil is the obscene amount of money at the heart of this whole crisis, and how the same few connected individuals always seem to be feeding at the trough of unlimited tax payers money.

You seem to expect that protesters should be pandered to, and the Government, Garda and contractors should acquiesce to your demands. Of course it won’t work like that.

It seems it takes very very little in terms of “surprise” for the true colours of these protesters to come to the fore. Anyone who attends protests featuring racists is condoning racism. If you consume “alternative media” produced by racists you are condoning racism.

It’s your choice, but unless you purge the movement you believe exists you will become synonymous with your members who think it’s okay to call people **** and pakis openly in public; commit violence; and destroy property.

You can’t say it’s “unfair” if all it takes to expose this stuff is simply show up and turn on a camera.

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It’s attuned to your version of logic.

The documentary was titled “Inside the protests”, why would they?