Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Again very weak argument - its social media, how do you know the majority are who they imply they are? Nothing stopping you from putting a random name or picture on a profile? Lots of "anonymous troll accounts" calling everyone racist/Nazi/ Facist.

We do not know who you are? Care to tell us?

You know how social media algorithm's work with regards to the content you see? Right?

Clearly, when the government, media and police force are on one side, it might be slightly personally disadvantageous to publicly denounce them. For the ordinary Joe like who has a family and a mortgage.

Siding with the establishment is easy. Like in the schoolyard, standing behind the bully watching him carry on picking on 'the other'….

Some people are very hard of thinking when it comes to their hot takes….

So the RTE Investigates footage was fake? Or have you an opinion on the scumbags and intimidation and arson shown?

I also agree the RTE bailout was wrong but the programme was hard hitting and well made. Biased yes but I am embarrassed for the posters who were defending the tactics of these racist scumbags, vandals and arsonists in the past. I said it before, the protesters have played into FFG's hands.

The behaviour of the likes of Dwyer, Gavin Pepper and some of the other nuts that certain posters were backing on the site was pretty clear. Rte didn't misrepresent the racial abuse, the harassing of volunteers, the attempt to intimidate journalists out of reporting. They were perfectly well able to come across as scumbags all on their own.

They did show the genuine protestors actually but like everything else the scumbags took over.

And the harassment and abuse that guy living in Ireland 18 years received on the campaign trial is nothing short of disgraceful. What it does show is that these people are not interested in just migrants they want anyone that looks different to themselves out.

And no it didn't make the government look good at all. It made them look rather incompetent actually. From not being able to provide adequate shelter for migrants in Dublin to a completely overwhelmed and understaffed police force and fire service, the Irish governments decimation of our public services over past 25 years were on full display last night on that broadcast.

Then maybe we shouldn't copy the French and English models where we throw everyone in a big pit together and rather let them integrate into society like normal humans.

We have already seen how integration can work in this country. The town of Ballyhaunis is good example to everyone.

I see the campers are back in Beggers Bush , personally I cant get excited about anything NE of Landsdowne but the NGO's must be up to their old tricks, someone from the North side wouldnt know the space existed yet randomers from the third world seem to have no issues lol

Yes indeed. The countries with ghettos and riots on the streets are invariably the ones who have done an absolutely terrible job of integrating people from minorities into wider society. People keep talking about Sweden and what is happening there, but it seems they have made an utter hames of immigration and integration : ghettos all over the place, migrant criminal gangs, large numbers of immigrants living in abject poverty and without prospects etc (like NI before and during the Troubles on steroids). None of this happened by accident.

What has happened this thread ??

How did Sweden make a hames of it and be as specific as possible on what they done wrong.

No other country has been able to make it a success, so can you let us know where they all went wrong, so we can pass it onto Simon so we can make sure we don't make those mistskes.

Where did I ever say it was fake footage? You summed up the problems with the program in your next paragraph. It was biased, and never addressed the root causes for the rise of the scumbags who cause all the trouble at these protests.

Because that would put a target on the fronts of RTE's Government "saviours" a few months out from an election.

Pravda would be proud.

Drew Harrris now admits that the Standing down of the Garda Public Order Unit during the Coolock riots was a mistake. Watching that programme last night it was my first thought and Im no security expert . Harris and Mc Entee are completly out of their depth as was was proven last night

With sweden, one of the smartest, wealthiest and progressive countries in the world has failed to integrate refugees into their society. What hope does that leave for everyone else. Is there any country that has successfully dealt and integrated significant numbers of asylum seekers. The swedes were one of the go to nations during the Syrian war. They changed there openness on the back of been unable to handle the sheer numbers of refugees and what was happening to the country. Would that not raise some questions around the trajectory this country is on albeit a time lag of 8 years versus the swedes. It's easier to manage a few thousand refugees a year. When you have a refugee number the same as the population of Leitrim landing on your shores every year how do you think Ireland can handle that successfully

Poor Paul Collins (Remcoll) in last night's PT investigates - Sadly 'it seems' he left the country (as it wasn't safe) - You'd really feel sorry for his predicament as he was likely only trying to do his best to help his fellow human beings, because that's just the sort of a guy Paul is…until you dig a bit deeper into Paul's involvement in the refugee scam. He's been knee-deep in this racket for years and has likely made 10's and 10's of millions (if not 100's of millions) on the back of it.

Will we see a PT investigates on Paul's net worth and how he got there in the future? - Will we ****!

The profane amount of money being redirected from the state to these 'connected ones' is reminiscent of some completely corrupt little African country riding the population into oblivion

The Crown Paints site owned by Townbe -

"Cork developer Paul Collins and Tanya Hennigan are listed as directors of Townbe Unlimited Company".

https://www.thejournal.ie/coolock-site-asylum-seekers-owner-crown-6443214-Jul2024/

https://gript.ie/coolock-group-believes-proposed-ipas-site-owners-likely-considering-injunction/

Tanya Hennigan (co-director) seems lovely too

As Carol Nolan Ind TD, stated -

Independent TD Carol Nolan has described the latest revelations regarding huge payments being made to providers of asylum accommodation as ‘the clearest confirmation yet that Ireland is The Orient Express of gravy trains’ for a growing number of private providers.

https://gript.ie/ireland-is-the-orient-express-of-gravy-trains-in-regard-to-asylum-payments-says-td/

"The Orient Express of gravy trains" - You go girl! - Fantastic description. There's a TD that you could put your house on being re-elected

I know I've quoted Gript media twice there and I'm a bad, bad man for doing so, but it's just I couldn't find anything about Paul Collins business adventures in the IT or where the truth matters, and I'm a curious sort of a guy