Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

I fill a box in my kitchen and when full transfer the bottles and cans to a plastic bag and leave it in the boot of the car

I get a coffee in an Applegreen every day with a machine so can use that but the smell at it is unbelievable

Don't know if its stale piss or beer from the cans returned and it also seems to reject a lot of stuff that gets accepted at other machines

The local Aldi is very good, a big machine at the underground car park that takes everything first time and the stuff can go in any way

I've never made a trip especially to go to a machine and I assume that most people that drive are the same

My kids are still getting takeaways delivered with cans not in the system so I don't know where the take away gets the cans or if they charge the 15 cent

Some strange assumptions here.

Re-turn have shown utter contempt to people who raised complaints about the scheme, including people who take deliveries and have mobility issues. They haven't shown the slightest hint they give a damn about people unable to complete manual returns.

Similarly, the most plausible explanation for why the council hasn't reported any breaches is that they aren't doing any checks in the places likely to be selling them.
How many actions are taken by councils against dog fouling, and the evidence for that is staring people in the face daily.

You can't read anything into 400 million returns. We don't know how many items were sold. Maybe there's been an increase in sales this summer with all the summer concerts. I think we need at least 3 years to judge if 400 million returns is good or not.
Isn't that what you posted a few posts back when people were making unfavourable % comparisons and the gombeen in chief at Return said likewise?
You are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

"By now, most people are probably familiar with the sight of a RVM (or reverse-vending machine). The primary appeal of the RVMs is that they are fun to use, because what’s not to love about putting your cans onto a conveyor belt and watching them be whisked away all while being paid for the privilege?"

What absolute bollocks. 🤣

Yes, it is either a matter of relief - RVM working and items that should have been accepted were accepted.

Or frustration… big queues or RVM machines busted or items rejected for no reason.

You must lead an extremely dull existence if a Re-Turn machine was a "source of wonderment".

You could tell the kids not to pay deposits on cans which are not in the system.

If the takeaway is charging them they are simply being ripped off.

Yes, I've said it many times on the thread, it is worse than a quango, it is a scamgo.

Just to be 100% accurate, having had a quick re-read on the actual law, there is some limited accountability directly to the Minister allowed for in it, in that they have to provide the Minister with any information requested and there is a provision for revoking their approval if they don't comply with the T&Cs or meet their targets. So at least hopefully at some stage in the future a Minister will ask where all the leftover millions are!

I have to agree, I'd be far more comfortable with it if it was more like the plastic bag levy and the surplus unreclaimed deposits went directly to the state.

Ah yes I remember the 1st of February with a tear in my eye. The thrill of being charged more for a product and having to work for free if you want your money back. Magic it was. Then the wonderment of those new machines with holes in the front. What could they be? Perhaps a portal to another world. 😂

Good man dx. That gave me a better laugh than the wasp joke.

Who would fund that job?

Very unlkley to see that position on Indeed i'd say.

Ah yes here we go. Not directly saying he cannot request it, but……………………………

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/minister-charge-deposit-return-scheme-33163527

True enough. What year do you reckon we will hear of a business being fined? I am still waiting for my CC to reply to me asking have they appointed said Sheriff can checker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah yeah.

Blah, blah, blah…

Something which I probably discovered by accident after the Boards changes. If I just copy and paste a link, it will not be live when I post. But if I put the cursor at the end of the link and press Enter before I post, that makes it live.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/minister-charge-deposit-return-scheme-33163527

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/minister-charge-deposit-return-scheme-33163527

The members of the CLG are the drinks producers.

The directors of the CLG are representatives of the drinks producers.

One of the CLGs income streams is a fee it charges producers per item that is placed on the market.

They no longer need to charge producers as much because they're sitting on unclaimed deposits.

Who needs dividends when they can just vote to reduce the producer's fee?

Same net effect on cash flow for the drinks producers whether its a called a dividend or something else.