Must be wide necks going in there
His head wood sound the same
Tesco Ennis (indoors) DRS being emptied yesterday.
Rotten smell of piss coming off the machines.
Lovely stuff when walking to Tesco or Penneys, or the Pharmacy in there etc.
Why does the board not have a member of the public or a consumer advocate on it?
And I reckon 2 of those CLG members are also on boards, constantly defending this scam.
If that actually happened it would rightly be condemned.
Do you think it's likely ?
The members of the CLG are the drinks producers.
The directors of the CLG are representatives of the drinks producers.
One of the CLGs income streams is a fee it charges producers per item that is placed on the market.
They no longer need to charge producers as much because they're sitting on unclaimed deposits.
Who needs dividends when they can just vote to reduce the producer's fee?
Same net effect on cash flow for the drinks producers whether its a called a dividend or something else.
Of course that didn't work.
Something which I probably discovered by accident after the Boards changes. If I just copy and paste a link, it will not be live when I post. But if I put the cursor at the end of the link and press Enter before I post, that makes it live.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/minister-charge-deposit-return-scheme-33163527
"You can't handle the truth....."
Yeah yeah.
Blah, blah, blah…
It's a not for profit company.
Nobody can pocket money out of it.
There is no lawful means by which dividends can be drawn from a not for profit company.
(of course it's a given that anyone working for the company can be paid)
True enough. What year do you reckon we will hear of a business being fined? I am still waiting for my CC to reply to me asking have they appointed said Sheriff can checker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can be sure they are charcing the 15c for the cans.There are supposed to be no un registered cans now in the system.Any buisness still selling these cans are liable to a €5,000 fine.Check your recipt.
Ah yes here we go. Not directly saying he cannot request it, but……………………………
I seem to remember a post here where it was noted that the Minister claims he cannot compel ReTurn to furnish him with the CEO salary? Perhaps I am mistaken?
Who would fund that job?
Very unlkley to see that position on Indeed i'd say.
I was unsurprised to hear Ray D'Arcy saying he takes great delight in the sound of the machines. He even went to the trouble of taking a recording machine to one of them. This will raise his already high esteem among the public even higher. Listen from the start.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/ray/2024/0909/1469193-the-ray-darcy-show-monday-9-september-2024/
Ah yes I remember the 1st of February with a tear in my eye. The thrill of being charged more for a product and having to work for free if you want your money back. Magic it was. Then the wonderment of those new machines with holes in the front. What could they be? Perhaps a portal to another world. 😂
Good man dx. That gave me a better laugh than the wasp joke.
Up north for the cans.They could not have stocks this long since last May.An ex local of mine used to do similiar.Buy cans up north to sell for takeaway until one regular noticed the alcohol content was lower compared to ROI cans.Revenue&Customs sorted that out(don't think they interested in cans of pop though,but you never know)
Just to be 100% accurate, having had a quick re-read on the actual law, there is some limited accountability directly to the Minister allowed for in it, in that they have to provide the Minister with any information requested and there is a provision for revoking their approval if they don't comply with the T&Cs or meet their targets. So at least hopefully at some stage in the future a Minister will ask where all the leftover millions are!
I have to agree, I'd be far more comfortable with it if it was more like the plastic bag levy and the surplus unreclaimed deposits went directly to the state.
Exactly.
It's a private company that's making bank on people's money to the tune of millions. And it's not a tax they're collecting either, because none of it is going into the exchequer, but is getting pocketed instead.
It would have been a million times better for the country if it was a state or semi state run body that could put the millions collected into the state coffers and put it to good use.
With Re-turn we have just ended up with the worst of everything.
Yes, I've said it many times on the thread, it is worse than a quango, it is a scamgo.
In fairness it's not a quango.
"Quango: a semi-public administrative body outside the civil service but receiving financial support from the government, which makes senior appointments to it."
At least in theory somewhere along the line a quango is somewhat answerable/accountable to government.
From a public governance aspect what we have here now is actually a million times worse than a quango, an industry run organisation that is essentially not answerable or accountable to anyone outside of itself.
You could tell the kids not to pay deposits on cans which are not in the system.
If the takeaway is charging them they are simply being ripped off.
I don't think anyone is against proper oversight and improvements to DRS.
Legally the directors of the company are responsible for the proper running of it.
I've suggested a few improvements myself and advised posters about workarounds.
I keep correcting people who say it's a quango simply because it's not.
Quangos are a different beast altogether.
I'm not in a position to exonerate anyone.
You must lead an extremely dull existence if a Re-Turn machine was a "source of wonderment".
Sounds like that's in rural areas
I've picked picked up some in good order that paid out in both rural and urban areas.
I will keep picking up when out walking whether they are damaged or not same as you.
Yes, it is either a matter of relief - RVM working and items that should have been accepted were accepted.
Or frustration… big queues or RVM machines busted or items rejected for no reason.
It was like that at the start, but the thrill has worn off now. It is no more remarkable than using a Hole in the Wall. They used to be a source of wonderment when they came out first.
