Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

Yeah recycling goes in lose. However if they weren't what's the issue if workers take them. They're welcome to them?

Went to a machine this morning in the local Supervalu - I wasn'd doing any shopping so it was an extra trip on the road, buring diesel, adding to the traffic etc, as my "DRS" bag at home was full and despite wasting significant amounts of water to "clean them" was beginning to pong a bit.

Now, we have reduced the amount of drinks we buy due to the additional price increases that producers have added to their products since February of this year - taking advantage of comsumer confusion (there have been significant price increases on some brands) so it takes a few (usually around 3) weeks to fill the bag.

Anyway, get to the DRS machine - its full (obviously not cleared since yesterday) ask a member of staff if they can do something about it, they are very obliging and it's back up and running within ten minutes. Machine then decides to reject toally 1 in 10 or so of the items despite me having paid a DRS on those items (I would expect at this point ALL PET and ALU being sold in Ireland has had a deposit on it). Throw them back in the bag - go into the shop and cash my receipt.

Drove home again threw the rejects in the recycle bin.

An fairly standard story I think at this point about the scheme more than 6 months in.

In the last six months have also had the opportunity to use the airport with the family - getting charged DRS with no real option to recover it. Same with some restaurants and coffeeshops etc - requirement is to take the item home with you which may not always be possible, if you want your DRS back - I think. No improvement on the situation really from before March.

Now there is no doubt that those who engaged with recycling in past have at least tried to engage with this but there are a hell of a lot of people (that I can see) that never engaged in the past and still arent.

I am seeing this in educational institutions where students are using the nearest bin for throwning bottles and cans in etc which is a massive percentage of items sold.

As I said, as a family we have reduced the amount of items we buy in these categories - so we are doing our bit for the environment but let it not be thought that this scheme has anything to do with the environment. All that needs to happen for people do buy less of these items is just add another tax on top.

It's easier to find a glass hammer than get a manual return currently, nevermind for "non-compliant" items.

DPS stands for deposit return scheme, it is impossible to reclaim your deposit in the airport. If you cannot get your deposit back then it's not a deposit, and calling it thus is surely fraud by any reasonable interpretation.

The scheme needs to be taken out of the airport and the deposits collected need to go back to the exchequer. Whoever signed off on it in the airport needs to be jailed for defrauding the public and travelers.

Mr Price best chance at a manual return if anyone wants to claim the win!

None of the DRS money is controlled by politicians or quangos.

I know it was talked about in NI, but given our recycling is all collected as part of the rates, I don't know how much of an appreciable difference having a DRS would make to recycling rates here, and therefore what's the incentive for one to be introduced…. I can just see the nightmare now where a completely different scheme is adopted though, leaving border people with a big headache (a bit like needing to have two tesco clubcards - sigh…)

I suppose an all Island scheme would be the best solution.

Probably not too easy to get agreement.

What do you think ?

Ah sure, feel good for doing your bit for the environment and donating to the ReTurn CEO and Board of Directors wages!

DRS is a quango with appointees in place.Dressed up as a recycling scheme to please the greenery and the mandarins in the eu.

It's absolutely not a quango, it's a CLG.

https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/return-irish-recycling-new-era-podcast/#:~:text=The%20company%20behind%20the%20scheme,%2C%20trading%20as%20Re%2Dturn.

It's not dressed up as anything.

It’s too time consuming now.

Really long queues of people with 6 black sacks loading a machine one bottle at a time.

It's still NOT a Quango.

If you want to propose a different structure possibly under direct Government funding and control please carry on.

They should get on with it and install a few bulk machines for the black sack people.

The shop based RVMs are not really suitable for returning large numbers of containers.

Pick ups have zero value. They're invariably crushed by cars or tractors. I pay for a green bin to get rid of them.