Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

They are getting €5m for the part in his rehab, plus United paid majority of his wages so they saved money there and sold Merch with his name so that could be included (dont know, just saying)

Im saying when has it ever happened where a club who had a player on loan for a season will receive payments from a second future transfer, yes it could happen where the selling club get the percentage but I have never seen a club where a player went on loan get payments also for two transfers

Cant see it happening but there is a buy back clause in it for €20m I read

Nobody is saying it can't be discussed. But in any online forum you have to exercise some judgment about whether you've got to the point its two people who are never going to agree just soapboxing past each other and derailing the thread down a rabbit hole.

And it wasn't even disagreements... It was a discussion.

Bizarre tbh.

Ugarte, Zubimendi, Richard Rios, Fofana and Rabiot are the midfielders United have been linked with over the past few weeks...

Out of that selection who would be most desirable

Admittedly my own knowledge of Rios, Ugarte and Fofana would be very very little. Rabiot Ive seen in international tournaments and Champions Lge snd same for Zubimendi

We need to shift Casimero for starters.

If that’s what got the deal done, so be it.
it’s the players / OMs problem now.

Normally with any of these sell on type deals, it leaves the player in a difficult spot, especially if they want to move before the contract expires, if they play well, the selling club demand too high a price to offset the sell-on fee, (In this case fee’s), and if the player under performs, the fee is minimal and therefore so is the sell on, so what normally happens here is that the players just sees out the contract

It’s impossible to tell how it will go, but IMO, that’s the likely scenario.

I think people are making a bigger deal of this than it is, just so they can squeeze the last bit of juice from this story , but as I said, it really isn’t our problem anymore.

If Brighton were to sell ferguson to Dortmound, and they included a sell on clause within that sale, then if dortmond sold him and they had to give Brighton a portion of that, then Brighton due to their contract with Bohs would have to pass on the relevant portion to Bohs.

Bohs would never have a contract with Dortmound, it would be due under their original contract with Brighton and still seen as part of the original contract.

As an example, if Marseille sell Greenwood and they include a sell on clause, man utd would be due their portion of it and Gatefe due their percentage of Utd's portion.

IF he's the type of player who needs to get a run of games before getting up to speed, then that would be my only concern, even if he is cheap.

I made it a big IF, as "he just needed a run of games" seemed to be used to explain his better form towards the end of last season. Personally, I think Amrabat's better form coincided with ETH not leaving midfield totally exposed. For 10-15m, he would be a good squad option.

IMO signing Amrabat is just continuing the history of rewarding mediocrity with new contracts. But this time we are also paying a trasfer fee on top.

He was OK in the last few games, imo. OK. nothing more. Better than Casemiro had been, but not at a level that if you saw him doing the same for Arsenal or Liverpool you'd be wondering why we didn't move for him.

There is also the element of the tweak in tactics, which I expect will continue into this season - but even then, imo, he was only ok. and only Ok in comparison to Casemiro and his own rotten performances prior. I don't completely blame him or Casemiro for those performances, a good chunk was tactical - but a change in tactics won't make him less of a pressing trigger or quicker.

Signing Amrabat would be a failure of a signing. A failure to do better. That failure can be because we couldn't afford to spend more because of poor sales. It might be a failure to indentify better players. whatever the reasons, it would be a failure.