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Will Hurling separate from the GAA to form its own body sooner rather than later?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    What about it?

    There are 6.8K views and 151 comments on this thread.

    Your biggest thread has 4 comments and over 500 views… do you have any self awareness?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    It's telling that nobody seems to agree with your proposal to split the GAA into separate bodies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,900 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I don't know why you are harping on this issue when I already explained to you

    1. Parnell Park - would be near full and near sell out - it was``
    2. The average hurling inter-county crowd that follows Dublin is approximately 3000 diehards.

    Given that Cork made a show of Tipp support both on and off the pitch in Semple. You would think it would be in your best interests not to labour on this issue?

    Now perhaps you will answer my initial questions instead of used that last issue as a smokescreen of sorts.

    1. What is your agenda for an independent hurling body?
    2. How would it improve hurling?
    3. What would be better than the current status quo?

    You had enough time to think of it over the last few days. So let's hear those views OP.

    You created the thread you must have some ideas surely?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    I was at the game. There was around 26000 to 28000 Cork fans at that game (even more in town that didn't even go to the game). More than likely 16000 Tipp supporters. I don't believe everything Donal Og says. Spoofing of the highest order. It was 2 to 1 Cork. They'd nearly have three times our population. Tipp supporters would have filled Parnell twice over. Also Cork camoige played Waterford before the game. Double header for Cork.

    I've been busy. And I'll get to it when I'm good and ready.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How old are you? “My thread has more views than your one”

    That thread about splitting Dublin had a massive amount of views and posts but it was an absolute car crash; a one man band shouting loudly, repeating the same things over and over, avoiding answering particular questions as long as he could and it fell apart when they finally got it out of him that he was a Kerry man.

    Starting to see some parallels with this thread to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    But a third of this thread is your posts alone and the majority of the rest is people disagreeing with you.

    The very fact you think that views and replies mean there's support for your idea is baffling. Some of the most active threads on boards are full of people telling the OP their idea is crap.

    There was a busy thread lately where the OP suggested abolishing bank holidays. By your logic the universal disdain shown for the idea was actually support because the thread got plenty of views and replies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,900 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    But the number of words you have posted there could have provided a great concise summary of -

    1. The purpose of a hurling body?
    2. How it would change the status quo?
    3. And how an independent hurling body would finance itself long term - given that it would not own any land or premises etc (The GAA own them all)

    To be honest I think "Good and ready" is code for:

    "Jayus I haven't a bull's notion altogether, and stop asking me questions, because it is bad enough Tipp are imploding. But now this thread I have created has made me look a bit of a laughing stock, and people will be coming back to it in years to come, when they want a bit of laugh. Because I did not mean it to be unintentionally hilarious. But sure at least I will be able to claim the amount of views means that my idea has some merit. Will ya leave me alone!"

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭randd1


    Not a hope that hurling will go it's own way.

    Hurling people neither have no vision, no honesty and no real community beyond "sure isn't hurling the greatest game ever". The Ross O'Carroll Kelly of sports, it's own self-importance due it's undeniably savage and thrilling entertainment blinding itself to the rot eating it from within. Any sport that exists in this way is doomed to failure, the traditions associated with the GAA are just about keeping hurling together. Leave the sport on it's own and it'd eat itself live.

    It can't even own up to the fact that rampant cheating is required to simply play the game. 80-100 throws a game between teams to the point that the sport is now built around the throw to get out of danger and build attacks.

    The steps rule broken any time a lad puts the ball in his hand, every tackle of a player running seems to involve a pull of the arm, refs don't enforce the rules and when they do are "fussy", "clueless" or "ruining the game" leading them to ignore 100-150 fouls a game, lads putting the head down and diving for frees, some lads feigning injury or diving to get lads sent off. And no-one plays with a regulation hurl, we can't even get something as basic as equipment right. An inter-county match is now as festival of cheating and entertainment.

    Competition structures are a joke. The league is about to be changed yet again. The championship is lob-sided, and has the impractical situation of throwing in the second tier team into the competition to be slaughtered, and has 5 total pure competitive knockout games (I wouldn't count the massacres that are the preliminary).

    Beyond Munster is disappointment, between development structure and investment in the game. With Kilkenny on the decline, I could conceivably see no Leinster team (including Galway) winning the AI for the 20 years.

    As for the media side of things, its' a ****!ng joke. Sunday Game panellists reduce everything to puckout strategy or playing the percentages, gloss over various major incidents and have twice as much talking than highlights of a game shown earlier in the day when games no-one has seen are given 30 seconds of viewing. Commentary team calling blatant throws great passing and not knowing the rules. And forget about promoting the game, the same lads bitching about GAAgo, has any of them mentioned the lack of promotion of games, media bans, etc? Course they haven't.

    Hurling needs the GAA to survive, it doesn't have the character, smarts or self-honesty to survive on it's own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    I agree with most of what ye say. Hurling people need to look within with honestly at the state of the game. Going alone is nonsense. There are many issues with the games rules and its structures that need addressing. The game needs more genuine critics as well as those who sing its praises.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    16/34 hurling games on a Saturday = 47%

    47/91 football games on a Saturday = 52%

    Donal Og is some gobsh*te tbf, hard to believe he gets paid for churning out the rubbish he does. A hurling version of Brolly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    While the GAA lacked foresight on this issue I find it difficult to be critical of them when there was zero mention of this until the four hurling quarter finalists and four Tailteann semi finalists were confirmed.

    Master fixture list was released in December, RTE & GAAGo broadcast schedules released in March. All those making so much noise at the moment waited until it was too late to raise their objections.

    It absolutely needs to be fixed for 2025 - and the Féile needs to be scheduled for the weekend between the quarter and semi finals. But the time to lobby for that is now, not next June.



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