Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Watching Trump speechifying outside the court-room over the past few days, I've been minded to think that he [and some of his acolytes] may have been deliberately pushing against the judge to try and get the judge to find him in contempt and order his detention instead of fining him.

The Hill US political media website ran an article by James Zirin, one of its political opinion columnists in which Mr Zirin opined on whether Trump would take the stand as a witness in his own trial, putting himself at risk of having to plead the fifth if asked questions [and he answered them incautiously] would be self incriminating.

Trump speaks his own mind on opinions of people, as has been noted in the court since he began attending there, and might ignore the best legal advice from his lawyers to decline if asked to take the stand and testify, fearing he would lose the cool while trying to irritate the prosecutor and/or the judge from the stand. He's opinionated enough to do so and might provide the evidence-rope a lot of people hope he would.

Coming back to court after his son's recent graduation and a political rally this weekend, he might be in a bullish mood and believe polls showing him ahead of Biden making him invincible from conviction by the jury.

so yesterday trump apologised to the voters on New Hampshire that he couldn’t be there because of court. The primary in New Hampshire happened months ago.

Maybe a sign of mental decline?

I haven't looked at this in depth but pethaps he is insisting on managing his campaign hands on whereas it is really too much for him.

That recent "pause for musical effect "episode feels like a bit of an eye opener .

Without the teleprompter he seems all at sea.

When he can just spout deranged verbiage ,there is less of a problem as logic has been suspended for the duration .

Some are even suggesting that the scripts on the teleprompter are actually written to sound like genuine Trump verbiage.

Who is the script writer in that case?

The scenario of him and a scriptwriter sitting down and cobbling together a script does sound like what the usual politician would do in order to maximise the number of happy voters. I think that he does instead listen to the weird bunch in the GOP who play to his ego.

The latest collaboration between him and Marjorie references the reported claim that the DOJ authorised the FBI searchers of the Mar-A-Lago estate to use deadly force if necessary in the search. Marjorie's stated understanding of that is that the DOJ and the FBI were going to assassinate Trump. Planting that in Trump's mind, and consequently his mouth, is only going to have one result; a further close-down of reasoned thinking through things on his part and more of the excessive public statements he's been making of late.

If he DOES NOT lose the NY case against him, due to a hung jury, a public statement will be expected from him, probably from the court steps. I expect the content will not be fully scripted in advance to avoid misunderstandings with possibly legally-slighted persons.

I am praying a journalist asks him if he used contraception with Stormy Daniels.

The line, "within a week or so" is the tell. Based on his history, this is a holding line. He uses this when he doesn't have a plan or doesn't know the details and is hoping he can get a positive response from that and then simply move on.

Did he even realise the difference between abortion and contraception? I doubt it. I assume he was answering a question on abortion and that is why, when he had time to realise what he had been asked and answered, did he have the big row back and claim it was all fake news.

So its not hard to understand the swift reversal. He says something off the top of his head. Either not understanding the question, not understanding the item itself, of just being confused. When he has time to think - or more likely when he is informed what he realy said - then he shouts that he was lied about and its all fake news. We have seen this situation multiple times in the past.

We know he didn't with Karen McDougal because she told Aderson Cooper.

I don't know if SD was asked the question or volunteered the information..

I guess that he didn't understand the question being put to him was about contraception and not abortion and he didn't assess what his answer should be before replying, and conflated the two. It was good that that happened as it show's his actual attention to detail. Now it'll be up to women and girls at state level to ensure their safety comes above their voting for him.

Its worth noting that his rapid backtracking shows he has people [whomever they are] he pays attention to when they showed him the actual words he used in his reply to the interviewer, and his use of the capital letters on Truth Social displayed his own annoyance in himself.

It astounds me how Trump never admits error, and people are ok with that.

I honestly believe that trump does not believe in failure or loss at all. There's only winning. There is no other option.

This alone must be a sign of mental instability. I firmly believe how we handle ourselves when we make an error shows our strength of character.

When have you ever seen him act contrite, or apologetic, or even admit a small mistake?

To me, that is not a sign of a good man or a positive role model in any way. Imagine if a child acted that way?

I think that for him to do otherwise would be [for him] an admission of failure, ergo; that he is a failure, something he could not [even in a once-off occasion] publicly admit to. It must be due, amongst other leanings, to his upbringing that he can't admit to a normal [I ***ed up] human failing. That being so, it's the bed he's made for himself and I'm not minded to help him smooth out its blankets.

That rally in the south bronx was so **** weird even for trump. He starts talking being able to wear pants and why he wears them, amongst other really odd things.

It's very normal.