The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

In that time that Dublin won their 14 Leinster titles - 3 teams have won Connaught, 4 or 5 Ulster and 3 Munster.

But yea Dublin aren't the problem.

Keep your head in the sand.

There is a significant gap between the top 10 teams in the country (Division 1 and very top of Division 2), and the rest. Dublin are the only Leinster team in the top 10. Top 10 teams will win most of the provincial championships and make up at least 7 of the AI quarter finalists. If you replaced Dublin with Kerry, Mayo or Galway in the Leinster Championship, they'd be winning every year as well.

Hurling realised a long time ago that sending Wicklow out to play Kilkenny in a Leinster Championship was pointless for teams/supporters/anyone else that might be interested. Football needs to go the same way. Have just 2 provincial championships (Ulster & Rest of Ireland) and only include Division 1 & 2 teams. Have separate competitions for Division 3 and 4 teams.

Meath and Louth had excellent u20 teams this year. If they progress and are playing Division 2 or above, then they play for a "provincial" title. Otherwise, they are play competitive matches against those of a similar standard.

Sport is at its best when nobody knows the result before the game starts !!

No but the standard is much higher in division 1 which puts teams in a much better place come championship

Monaghan, Roscommon and Galway massively improved over the years with the more time they spent in the division

Division 1 is a higher standard then the current Leinster championship Dublin aside

Do you not get embarrassed suggesting that Dublin is not the problem in Leinster?

Those are all facts by the way. Not my opinion.

all the facts demonstrate that the problem isn’t that Dublin are too strong- when measured against the full AI setup they’re eminently beatable. Mayo have come close to beating them at the business end of major competitions, Kerry, Derry and several others have beaten them. Outside of Leinster there’s plenty of teams that would consider themselves competitive against Dublin.

the issue is Leinster teams are too weak, and have been since long before Dublins dominance. The Leinster council to their credit are trying to develop other counties (something their counterparts in Munster could learn from), but realistically there’s an onus on the counties themselves to do their bit. There’s not much resources can do to help a team that folds like a cheap accordion at the first bit of pressure. I say that by the way knowing that Dublin were also there once and it was a change in mindset rather than simply money that got them over that.If Dublin were genuinely the issue we’d see far stronger performance in the league for example from Leinster counties

the GAA didn’t create a monster with Dublin, they already had one in the wider AI setup. Why some posters think a century of Kerry handing out trimmings, continuing to this day, is fine but Dublin need reined is says more about the posters biases than it does about any desire for a fairer competition

No. I have a problem with Dublin GAA receiving millions more per registered player than any other county from the GAA and Government. Since then they have won 14 Leinsters in a row and 9 AI titles. We were told at the time that it was a once in a generation team.

But I suppose thats all coincidence. 🙄

I think Leinster counties have been hit by the popularity of rugby over the last 10/15 years. A lot of excellent talent is been hovered up by Rugby. Obviously this has a great impact on Meath and Kildare than Dublin.

And it doesnt matter to you that the Gaa have destroyed football in Leinster because Dublin are winning.

F### you Jack, I'm ok attitude.

football in Leinster was dead long before the Dublin funding, just that too many in the province didn’t worry about getting a hiding at a national level once they had the parish bragging rights

a pathetic, unambitious, beggar thy neighbour view of the world

and yet Leinster had one paltry all Ireland to show for their efforts in that time window

yeah football in Leinster was really flying the flag back then

hope the parish bragging rights made up for it

I’d be more than happy if the rest of Leinster upped their game to deny Dublin the provincial title. If they managed that they’d be able to hold their own with the bigger teams at the business end of the AI and have a shot at winning the damn thing. Not a chance in hell I’ll ever support hobbling a team to give them a pity win though.

Oh look another Dub who focuses on Munster. Lets ignore Connaught and Ulster.

Look over there everyone.

I’ve made no bones about wanting to develop Leinster to a level where they can compete effectively in the AI. I’ve even made a host of suggestions to achieve this. Generally these have been dismissed without any exploration by the other side because it doesn’t suit their agenda to hobble Dublin only for the benefit of their own county. You’re welcome to read back through the thread to see for yourself.

a shame that once your argument is demolished all you can do is resort to accusing posters of lying. Dodging the debate and trying to circle back to the same failed arguments seems to be feature of many of the anti-Dublin side in this thread. I can see why there are calls to close the thread when this is the sort of nonsense cycled through. Maybe you’d like to actually address the points made?

You initially said you had a problem with Dublin winning 14 Leinster titles out of 14.

And that this was a symptom showing the Leinster Championship was fcuked.

It was then pointed out that Kerry had won 12 out of 14 in that same timeframe.

You were asked if you had the same problem with Munster, and you said no.

You then pivoted to "I have a problem with Dublin GAA receiving millions more per registered player than any other county from the GAA and Government.".

This is different to your initial problem, that one team was so dominant in the province.

You shifted your stance from one position to another. This is the dictionary definition of changing the goalposts.

Everyone can see that with their own two eyes.

If Dublin winning everything in Leinster means the province is dead, then Kerry winning everything in another province also means Munster is dead, using your logic. But no, let's change that logic when someone points out the flaws in your entire premise and alter the parameters of the argument to avoid looking like a dope.

🤣🤣 I couldn't give two hoots about Kerry. If they never won again I wouldn't lose any sleep.

Your paranoia is playing tricks with you.

WTF are you on about?

What is a consequence of what?

How can I refuse to accept it when I haven't a bleedin' notion what you're going on about?