The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

ok thanks. I think the Scottish and welsh clubs are acceptable arguments against the professionalism of GAA. I don’t think they are absolutely clinching arguments that end the argument. Different sports, different countries.

The GAA has potential for 10-12 professional teams in future, not right now. While it doesn’t have the international element to prop it up, it has far more teams to prop up the existence of a domestic league than welsh or Scottish rugby.

personally I think eventually will get bored of the Kerry Vs Dublin “all Ireland” championship. There are far too many cannon fodder teams in the all Ireland championship that really would be better to be merged together.

I think the GPA asked their members if they were in favour of professionalism and I believe a majority were, they then asked if they were still in favour if they couldn’t play for their county anymore but only within a regional team and they were against.

wasn’t a joke, just wasn’t aware that teams had ceased operations as professional entities

Has Wicklow as a county ever won anything at senior level in the history of the GAA?

Dump the whole county system and rearrange the whole country into divisions of roughly similar population , not just for sports but local government too. Effing ridiculous havea sparsely populated region likeLeitrim up againstsomewherelikeDublin, Cork or regions withmultiples of population. NOBODY really gives a sh1t anymore

what was attendance yesterday? as teams were parding around it looked around 15,000? must be a record low attendance for a leinster final?

Enlighten you ? How can countries like Derry go from division 4 to division 1 win multiple Ulster titles ect..

If Dublin were not in Leinster Kildare and Meath would still have there hands full with the likes of Louth and Westmeath

Two counties with great traditions but have let their own standards drop massively from 20 years ago

tell it to these guys

https://www.offtheball.com/football/gaa-executive-pay-croke-park-averaged-e125845-2019-965684

Meath or Kildare have barley managed to hold division 1 status for more then a year at a time since it was restructured in 2008

They are supposed to be the big guns in Leinster if they can't maintain division 1 football how would they be expected to win a provincial title

Derry went from division 4 to division 1 won back to back titles in a much tougher championship and beat Dublin on there own patch in the league final this year

Thae harsh reality is it has nothing to do with Dublin it's a massive drop in standards in two great football counties and it's not just then , Offaly and laois have both gone backwards too

None of them counties are producing the same type of players they were producing 20 years ago

Leinster counties being dominated by Dublin for so long sucked the life out of them.

If Dublin were doing likewise in Ulster it would severely damage counties and crowds there too. Imagine the negative effect of Dublin winning 19/20 Ulster's with no end in sight.

hmm, I’d say you could do an Elon musk in Twitter on those executives and very little impact would be seen on revenue. 1.7 million for executives. I’d love to know what they do in an organization which largely runs itself.

The players for the elite counties are what’s really indispensable to the revenue of the association.

is there a site on GAA.ie showing who they are and what they do. It’s not easy to find.

And which province are Meath, Kildare, Offaly and Laois from? What is the common denominator here?

You are actually backing up my argument.

your own county last appeared in an AI final in 2001, last won a league 30 odd years ago. Last reached a league final 20 odd years ago. They’ve been good enough to reach provincial finals 5 times in the last 15 years and in spite of that they haven’t made too much progress on the business end of the AI. Run into a Munster county and their goose is cooked. Your population is growing in double digit figures census to census so it’s not for want of players.

Kildare are even worse at the business end of the AI in spite of 4 provincial finals in the last 15 years.
The same pattern holds for most of Leinster.Leinster as a province has underperformed in the last 30 years (and arguably for longer). Take Kerry and Dublin out and of the mix and looking at semi finals this century Ulster have 26 Connacht have 15, Munster have 10. Leinster have 5!

Even by the most optimistic accounting that desperate set of statistics precedes the Dublin funding and certainly precedes any effect that could be attributed to it.

maybe Dublin aren’t the problem here.

come on i am form clare for godsake kerry have won nearly 90 munster titles , and we are on the same level nearly as meath or kildare , given the size of pick both counties have over the likes of us surely they should be doing better then where they are , at least at national league and all ireland series level

in 2009 meath were in an all ireland semi final and went damn close to wining it , kildare got to the final the following year , as soon as dublin won an all ireland it seems like everyone in leinster wilted , both teams ended up in divison 3 quickly afterwards and both had a fair bit of trouble at county board level that didn't help

if its a mindset issue its something that can be changed quickly enough , but i don't think they are producing enough of the same quality players as they were up until 2010 to challenge at the very top again