Deposit return scheme (recycling)

The deposit malarkey is just pissing people off. It's another hike in prices that people don't need, and coupled with the fact that the machine usage is so unwieldy and there's been no provision made for people with limited mobility, etc, it results in a scheme that's, basically, unfit for purpose, but a nice little earner.

The other day I went back with an empty 8 pack of Guinness cans, which now costs me an extra €1.20 (that's no joke of a price hike BTW). There were no dings in the cans and the barcodes were clear. 3 were accepted and the rest were rejected for some reason. I asked the guy behind the counter what the story was and he just rolled his eyes and said "sorry, there appears to be a lot of rejections". He was clearly as unhappy about this shite as everyone else is. I brought the 5 rejections home with me and put them in the green bin, where they were always being put in the first place, before this nonsense.

Stop pretending you can't see how shambolic this whole thing is.

ouple of lads did well on the ground at croke park earlier.

Seemingly this is the picture taken of him on his way back home….😯

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Either machines that work or stop robbing people.

The deposit thing is a joke that puts money into a commercial venture. It's not an "incentive", it's just another extra cost for a lot of people who were already recycling their cans and plastic in their green bin, which they also pay for.

Doesn't really answer my questions but thanks for the effort.

I don't get the logic of either things to be honest, it would be interesting to see what Return would say of asked directly but we all know their lead time on answering queries asked of them.

I think it was already established the plastic isn’t even economically viable to recycle. It wasn’t viable before this scheme, still not viable now. From a purely environmental point of view, we need people to stop using single use containers period.

I think we need a splash of dish soap in each can/bottle. That’ll put a stop to it.

This scheme is not designed to stop the use of one-off plastics. It is a scheme designed to put all the costs on the consumer and blame them. It was brought in to ward off any possible legislation that could have changed the type of containers the likes of coke and water use as that would hit their bottom line.

This makes it look like something is being done, without having to really do anything. The upside is that they (Re-turn) know that there will be millions of containers not returned through the scheme, which helps pay for their scheme. You and I, who already pay for their product, are now having to subsidise their environmental obligations.

I have no problem with the idea of the scheme, it works in other countries. But it fails to deal with the actual issue. That of containers bought while out and about not being recycled. Instead of this nonsense, the producers should have paid a levy to get bins everywhere. No need for barcodes. I don't need a barcode to return glass at the bottle bank.

They, the producers, are placing this product on the market. I, as a consumer, have no option if I want to buy the product that to buy it in the containers they have opted for. That is their choice but I am being the one made pay for it.