Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

All very well if FF number stabilise.
If they don't and they stay on the course they are on, oblivion or insignificance beckons.
I am sure there are those in the FF who can't see it, but I 'm also sure you will soon see, or rather, hear those who see it.

A period in opposition under 14% would be perilous for FF IMO

I still think the internal ructions when they go public will be the deciding factor in the formation of the next government

Its an incumbent government party

Surely the bigger news story here is the more than 10% drop in Sinn Féin support , and it now an election year,the supposed main opposition

Isn't that what is quare bad

To be fair

Time to pull the finger out

Its very relevant to this thread

35% SF -Easier to form a government

25% SF -Difficult to form a government

So you're advocating for an SFF government?

Might happen

But it won't if the numbers for some version of the current government stack up can it and try as they might it's detractors eager attempts to describe it as unstable don't stack up given it looks like going full term or near full term does it

Again on topic,we know the Healy Rae's and like minded would vote against Martin for Taoiseach but would they vote for Mary Lou ,unlikely,ditto the majority of the incumbent independents given thats where the wind is blowing ,they're an easier catch for the current government,unless Mary offers them a rotating Teesh ?

You're certainly right about events

Only 8 or 9 months left for the Events to improve Sinn Féins performance but they wouldnt want any events of their own

I would not say 35% SF would be easier to form a government. Both would be nigh on impossible. Didnt SF have 35% approx after the last election ? (from memory only, stand to be corrected).

I think SF would need over 40% of seats to even consider being able to form a government

Well if you want me to be less selective,maybe start a new thread on a wider subject?

You know the title of this one

I do agree at the rate they're going,there won't be room for a sheet of paper between Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil in terms of identity,theres bound to be heretofore SF supporters not happy with that either btw and its a bigger change for them than the FF crowd

Well anyone who votes for SF and who doesn't listen to the leader deserves all the rude awakenings they get.
She has, since taking office, been very clear that she will talk to anyone about forming a government.

How are FF core voters feeling having been told that FF 'will never' coalesce with FG?

I'd say if the numbers secured it,Id imagine the members would definitely vote to return a new version of this government,they certainly won't be knocking the doors come election saying how terrible each other are

Seriously, could anyone trust anything they say? That's their real problem next time out.

If Sinn Fein cannot con FF into government, they won't form a government. The price they will pay will include a rotating Taoiseach, possibly even with FF going first as SF have zero Ministerial experience.

However, it won't get to that. 55% of the electorate hate Sinn Fein and will never vote for them. Any party that goes in with SF will pay a heavy price. FG will smartly rule out SF to look at getting that vote.

Ah here now,you're not serious?

He changed his mind

Surely you're not reverting back to the old Sinn Féin position on EU referenda ,that people shouldnt be allowed to change their mind?

Sinn Féin afterall have become serial mind changers 😂

If you think all Irish politicians are in the con game ( you mentioned FF and FG - please do not attempt to tell us your SF were / are not in the con game…take its leader for most of the past 40 years - for example does anyone believe him when he says he was not in the IRA, so is or was he conning too )….do you think all politicians overseas are in the con game too?

No, but you asked "Who got conned there?" and you stated in a following post "don’t be telling me MM and Lv were not in the con game."

MM and LV's governments were not perfect but most of the problems we have are first world problems, and in fairness the country has full employment, record spending is being spent on educatuion and health, it is not borrowing tens of billions extra every year to keep the show on the road etc. We know what other politicians are like in this country too. So answer the question: do you think all politicians overseas are in the con game too, or is it just Irish politicians you think "are in the con game"?