The Tipperary GAA Discussion Thread

I don't like Cahill's comments. They aren't going to draw any sort of reaction from the players.

He is as much to blame for this as the players are.

is the criticising of Cahill here warranted ….big efforts put into getting him and lots of tipp supporters calling for his appointment ….long and short of it is this is a poor tipp team …players have the skill but don’t appear to have the dog in them for tough battles …leadership on field questionable too ….

Cahill had to be appointed, his success with underage teams, and the fact the players he won all Ireland's with are now coming through I think there was little choice.

If we are as bad next week then Cahill is gone and the search for a manager starts again.

We have to win next week and hope we can turn over Cork in Thurles. No way can I see us beating Clare.

Your probably right , we don't have the players. Compare the 16 /19 winning teams and you'll find no Paudie , seamie , Noel , Bubbles , Bonnar, Brendan Maher . Most of today's team wouldn't get on those winning teams

This is it, the Kilkenny junior hurling club championship would be of a higher standard than the tipp senior club championship. The standard of clubs in the tipp championship is so poor.

JAysus didn't see many tipp lads on kilkenny thread after last year's all ireland.Worry about yereselves. Ye getting bet in every national final ye play. Near 10years since last all ireland so Ye can leave out the salt rubbing.

i genuinely think its shadow boxing , but with cahill who knows , i cant imagine hitting thurles at the end of may with only 6 or 7 thousand around with tipp out of the championship but it is possible the way ye are talking

It is very, very possible. Very possible.

to back up the claim that there never has been a shadow boxing munster championship game , look at clare and the all smiling happy everybody loves dalo

we lost one year 3-19 to1-08 to waterford , a few weeks later we brought kilkenny in there prime to a replay and only lost by a point , the same thing happened the following year against cork in 2005 in the all ireland semi final

What part of any of that is shadow boxing?

Getting hammered out of the Munster championship and playing well in the qualifiers 10 weeks later doesnt mean ye were "shadow boxing".

Tipp were hammered by Cork in Munster in 2010 in the first round and won the AI that year stopping the 5 in a row. Again no shadow boxing.

i am not that was dalys way,look back at our qualifier runs between 2002 and 2007 only once did we not make an all ireland 1/4 final and we probably lost the first round of munster every year

I forgot, add in last year's qualifier against Galway.

this team and players will be judged on last few years …..big underachievers ..team not as good as they or is think they are …no mental toughness o dog in them when going gets tough or they need to grind out a result ….has people already calling for Cahill’s head after the huge clamour to get him …will take more than a manager to get this team back challenging for trophies again

from the outside looking in, I have to say there's a pang of Waterford 2022 off this Tipp team in so far as they look like once the championship started, they looked physically wrecked and just couldn't muster the energy to compete.

The same against Clare in the league SF, there was no fizz about the team, the build up play was slow, lads weren't moving when they should, didn't use the space. There's a lack of energy there.

I thought Tipp have looked stuck to the ground for going on a year now, that the likes of Mark Kehoe, Jason Forde and a few other had bulked up too much and they've lost a bit of mobility, especially their ability turn on a sixpence they always had.

And normally the stick work and hands with a Tipperary team is top notch, but since the Waterford game last year really, the poor catching, taking the ball on the stick instead of the hand, slow striking. How many times were Tipp blocked down yesterday when shooting for scores? Normally the hands would have been quick enough that they'd have been over the bar before the opposition player fully raised the hurl.

Granted, Limerick will do that to most teams when they're on fire, but Tipp looked like they were over-trained and under-coached yesterday, but that's only following on from Waterford onwards last season.

I think Cahill has got the preparation of this team all wrong, from a lot of angles.

You'd could argue that it's a lack of quality of player, but a lot of these Tipp players have U21/U20 AI titles, minor titles, senior medals in the pocket. They can't be bad hurlers if they have that in them. And the Waterford side of 2022 certainly was a panel brimming with talent, better than this Tipp side. And yet come the Munster round robin, flat, tired and out of sync. Just like Tip now.

Tipp look jaded, mentally and physically, over the last few games. If Waterford play anywhere near their potential, you'd be expecting them to win. The biggest saving grace for Tipp going forward is that Waterford most certainly are not Limerick and won't steamroll them so Tipp are well within a shout there, and if they beat Waterford that Cork may be gone by the time they play them so it might be easier for them in that one.

But I can't help but get the feeling looking at Tipp over the past year that they're under-couched and over-trained. Not a good place to be facing the bear pit that is Munster after a bad start.

How many teams play senior hurling in Tipperary ??….too many is the answer. Theres only 12 senior clubs in Limerick but a very even competive championship and the next 8 teams play in an ultra competitive premier intermediate championship which is a far better model to bring up players than half the county thinking their senior players .