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Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

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    #6962
    Norrie Rugger Head
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122022594#Comment_122022594

    Vs the cumulative pressures of the past 2 years? yeah, no

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



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    #6963
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122022699#Comment_122022699

    9/10% over the past two years doesn't make a dent?



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    #6964
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    21e increase before deductions in my wages this week.



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    #6965
    maneno
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭maneno


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122022943#Comment_122022943

    you could buy a cup of coffee 🤣



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    #6966
    SouthWesterly
    Registered Users Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122024036#Comment_122024036

    It definitely won't buy the cake to go with it though 😞



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    #6967
    toggie
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭toggie


    Forsa have updated Local Government Salary Scales with effect from 1st January 2024. It is published on their website.



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    #6968
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Got my backdated pay and increase today.

    CPI since the start of this deal is +0.2% and we have received +2.25% with another 1% in June. You won't see those crying out it was for more upfront acknowledging that.



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    #6969
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,535 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121996339#Comment_121996339

    Those companies aren't changing terms and conditions. They've had it in their terms and conditions that they would apply an inflationary increase. It's not really comparable.



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    #6970
    Norrie Rugger Head
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122078242#Comment_122078242

    I didn't say they changed T&C but it's legal for them to put such a clause in, without you being able to get free of the contract.

    Literally trapping people into paying more for several products with no way out, outside breakage fees.

    Workers are service providers, we sell our time/effort, yet we don't get to insert meaningful clauses like this without being called greedy.

    Government and companies are pulling in record takes but we were presented with a less than inflation deal, no matter the vote outcome

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



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    #6971
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122078478#Comment_122078478

    Who isn't calling companies greedy for doing it?????



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    #6972
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,122 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122076971#Comment_122076971

    CPI since the start of this deal is irrelevant.

    How about CPI since the start of the previous deal? Not looking so hot now is it?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #6973
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122080313#Comment_122080313

    Your argument is that its "not the full picture", not that its irrelevant. I struggle to see how a stat like that is "irrelevant".

    An argument (largely from one very loud poster here) was that the current deal is lower than inflation when only considering the period of the deal. So far, that's very much untrue. So how exactly is my post irrelevant?

    You're arguing a point I'm not making.



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    #6974
    ashzoc
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭ashzoc


    Hi all

    I apologise in advance for what will probably be a very badly worded question and I hope it will make sense.

    I am wondering how does this pay deal work with increments? Lets say my salary will go up 1000 when I get my next increment but will the 1% be in addition to that? Are the pay scales also going to be increasing or how does that work? Due to increments my salary was going up anyway. So is my salary going up because of the increment or will my salary go up the % increases also?? From the way I see it is the salary scale does not also go up then I will only be getting an increase that I was going to get anyway and not the additional increases newly agreed

    Would appreciate opinions on this



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    #6975
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122136706#Comment_122136706

    Moving up points on the scale and the pay deal are separate.

    Lets say my salary will go up 1000 when I get my next increment but will the 1% be in addition to that? 

    Yes.

    Example: If you're on a point 1 of the scale at €30,000 and point 2 is at €33,000. The 1% increase will be €30,300 and €33,330. The new scale applies from June. If you stay on point 1, then your salary increases by €300. If you move to point 2, then your salary increases by €3,330.



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    #6976
    ashzoc
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭ashzoc


    Thanks for the response that's good to know!



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