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Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Plenty of clipboard merchants who think the way football is played these days is an entertaining experience.

    Hopefully Jim Gavin and his panel can rescue the game from the depts.

    Urgent action needed Not an entertaining spectacle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭shockframe


    3 enjoyable games yesterday.

    Watchable game in roscommon

    Epic game in ulster today.

    Not bad going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    your view of watchable is very different to mine. This is the first year where I have zero interest in Gaelic football, I wont even watch the all Ireland final this year.

    I think I will go watch a hurling semi final in Croke park this year instead of a Football semi and I was never even at a hurling match before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭carq


    Imagine a ball going in to a forward where he is only marked by 3 defenders



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,781 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Derry v Donegal was a great watch.

    Cavan v Tyrone was a great watch too.

    Maybe Ulster is where the excitement is at?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    Supposed to be four steps before kicking or bouncing the ball… seven or eight when he caught the ball and five or six subsequently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    What are you talking about. Been a great weekend of GAA football. Saw the Derry Donegal game. Was at Mayo v Roscommon. Entertaining match. Cavan Tyrone game yesterday was some entertainment. Galway Sligo game on a knife-edge to the final whistle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Zero interest just this year. On a thread you started over 12 months ago.

    And zero interest but you were watching Mayo Roscommon yesterday😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    12 months ago I would watch maybe 10% of games, now I have no interest in watching any gaelic football game.

    I watched around 1 minute of Roscommon V mayo, no exaggeration there, 1 minute, that was enough for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Hopefully Ja and the lads will take the game out of the hands of the clipboard crowd and rescue it.

    Time is running out I fear, it’s staring people in the face but they won’t admit it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭randd1


    Football is a damn fine sport, and a thrilling watch when both sides simply go for it.

    But far too often goes into boring lulls based on keep ball. Yes, possession gives you a better chance of creating space getting a score, which is why teams do it, but it is a boring watch. For every Dublin/Derry league final, there's 5 games that would bore paint as it's drying. Even in some games, you'd have 20 minutes of quality football, 50 minutes of slow fare, but the 20 minutes would mask the poor stuff.

    I don't know what you can do to liven it up a bit, but whatever it is, base it around forcing teams to attack more. The more teams go for it in football, the less focus on possession, the more focus on taking on the man and beating him, the better the game of football. It can be an outstanding watch at times when teams simply play a natural attacking game, the likes of the Derry/Dublin league final stands up to and surpasses a lot of great hurling games of recent times.

    How you get teams to attack more, I simply don't know (though I reckon a designated forwards approach could work), but the sport is fine in terms of the basics, it just needs a prod into unleashing itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Correct and right, excellent post with a very good synopsis of what's not entertaining about a lot of football .

    I would have faith in Jim Gavin and the new President to have the vision to see that Gaelic football is in need

    of a boost and take the steps to remedy a game, which, left to fester and languish in the swamps of

    turgidity will surely descend into non events in the future.

    The signs are all there…… they need to wrest the control of the game from the clipboard merchants and make it

    a spectacle worth watching and attending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭carq


    maybe force teams to keep 6 men in the opposition half at all times



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    But would the teams keep the 6 men just inside the opposition half?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭rrs


    Down v Armagh has awful so far. 2 pts to 1 with 25 minutes played



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,435 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    They need to bring in a shot clock or a rule like Ice Hockey once the ball crosses the 65 and or 45 it can't be brought back out over it by the attacking team.

    Teams have to be forced to actually shoot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    The clipboard statisticians have seriously damaged the game… even the commentators mentioned the crowd on their phones .

    Come in Jim… the game needs you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Gonna be lost in the GaaGo controversy and the Limerick Cork excitement but one of the first few years in a while that the 4 Provincial football finals were entertaining in their own right.

    Been a good championship so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭shockframe


    An enjoyable under 20 final today.

    Anyone counting the handpassing?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Football is a simple game. First pass in a move can be with the hand. Every subsequent pass with the foot. No going backwards into your own half. Forwards have to stay in their own half of the field. Force long kicking with lots of 1 on 1 competition all over the field. Risk of losing possession is too great. Its horrible to see teams like Donegal retreating on mass. Jim McGuinness is the ultimate pragmatist. Low risk football with very good players.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    You obviously have not been watching Donegal this year. If they continue the progress that they have shown so far, they may be the only team to give Dublin/Kerry a challenge. The football they have played and the scores they got are a delight to witness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭downthemiddle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Fair enough how would you make football more attractive. Players have never been more skillful or fitter. Football can be a great game - how do you reward progressive teams. If two teams sit back and rely on breaking in numbers on a turnover I think it turns into a pass the parcel spectacle. A few top teams can just about carry it off but division 3 and 4 teams at it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,470 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Jim Gavin and a group are having a look at football with a view to improving it as a game.

    I'm hoping they come up with some innovations which liven up the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    11 a side and stop the goalkeepers travelling up the field. no frees going backwards, only 2 players allowed tackle the player in possession.

    Post edited by pgj2015 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭randd1


    Th most obvious start they can make to improving football is to get rid of the 3 from 4 out of the group stage and the league SF's.

    There's virtually no jeopardy in the group phase until the last game, and even at that most of them games need only a draw for the 3 from 4 to progress. Limit it to two from each group, and the suddenly the tension and desire to go out and win goes up massive from the off as one bad result and you're staring down the barrel. A very obvious move.

    Remove the league SF's. We don't need them.

    That's two rounds of games removed throughout the year, so two weeks freed up in the calendar as well.

    I would also have the 1st round of the provincials played after round 5 of the league, the provincial QF's after round 6, have round 7 of the league and then the League Finals, then the Provincial SF's and finals the two weeks after the league finals so some teams aren't waiting as long as others for their opening game in the Championship/Tailteann Cup.

    And FFS, rename the Tailteann Cup the All-Ireland Intermediate Football Championship (because that's what it is) and give the winners guaranteed entry into the following seasons senior championship. A small difference, but ending the season as All-Ireland Intermediate Champions is an easier sell then Tailteann Cup winners, if it's good enough for the clubs, then it's good enough for the counties..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,474 ✭✭✭megadodge


    "Remove the league SF's. We don't need them."

    What league SF's?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Relax! No need to get edgy about the football, it's only brought on because there is a buzz after the provincial round Robins in the hurling. That sideshow is over and the hurling fizzles out now as the All Ireland series isn't exciting. The football starts to slowly stretch its legs with the All Ireland series leading into knockout games that get the pulse racing as the big boys come face to face in cracking matches. It's the same every year, no need for all the drama over the state of the game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0529/1452029-sheehan-too-many-athletes-not-enough-footballers/

    Good idea, long range points are the only positive I see in Gaelic football at the moment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭randd1


    Sorry, got completely confused with previous years. You are of course correct, thanks for the correction.



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