Deposit return scheme (recycling)

The shop does pay the distributor…. I work for one such distributor and we have had to introduce invoicing for the DRS charges to the retailer.

The scheme needs to get to 90%. The scheme needs minorities to meet those targets. If it was just about a majority, we wouldn't need this scheme at all.

And yes, we frequently modify laws, and when drafting new laws, to take into account the needs of a minority. We don't have laws that just help the majority. That is not how a democracy works if it wants to survive and honour its constitution and the rights of its citizens.

Yes we have laws for minorities rights, in fact I'd argue we don't have enough of them. But we don't and shouldn't have laws that give the minorities rights over the needs of the majority of the population.

Have to say, I've yet to encounter a machine that hasn't taken 100% of my items. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe I've developed the knack quickly.

What I don't understand, and I'm no fan of this scheme, is the petulance on display when multiple posters say they will purposely put recyclables in the wrong bin at home. An utterly pointless show of "revolt" which only harms yourself and your descendants.

False equivalence. Are you saying it is impossible to have a Re-turn scheme that does not take into account the needs of minorities? Why is it on the one hand the rights of the minorities versus the needs of the majority? And I'm sure a case could be made that we have many laws and regulations already on the books that give minorities rights over the 'needs' of the majority, if you define either loosely enough.

And again, you ignore the point that the scheme needs to get to 90%. It's simply not good enough to be writing off so many "minorities".

So to advocate for a Re-turn scheme that needs to get to 90%, while also arguing we don't need to accomodate minorities and make the scheme workable for them too, is entirely self defeating.

Correct the funnel is your only man for pouring liquids.

Holding the 5 kilo weight steady is still a bit much for the frail

Ah look, a year from now when the stats show that daily returns are maybe 2-3m/5m sold, there'll still be lads on here saying it could be a success if only we'd commit to inconvenience ourselves harder.

Stolen from the Liveline thread 🤣

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I was at my local Dunnes trying to get my money back. Large store and there are 2 return places outside. There was a queue but everyone including myself had items that it wouldn't take. The ones that were rejected, I put aside and tried again in the end and got a few more of the rejects to be accepted. Total €6.35 so not an insignificant amount. The amount of time we all spent inspecting the rejects to discover there was nothing wrong with them was ridiculous. I brought my rejects home, crushed them as I used to do and put them in the recycle bin.

The scheme makes no sense for those of us that actively crushed and recycled the plastics before this scheme.

Pricing on the shelf never reflects what I will be charged at the till. Why was that allowed.

Is the new tax added to price inflation figures ? They can't just disregard the actual cost of the bottles at the till based on 100% returns.

Now that made me laugh! A survey before the sh1tshow even started. I wonder how many have changed their minds now it is in operation and they have to endure all the flaws being discovered.

In my local Dunnes the shelf pricing is clear.

It's meant to show the price of the product and the amount of the deposit.

DRS is not included in inflation figures because in theory it's refundable.

But if they don't sort out the glitches and people keep losing deposits I suppose you could make a case for it's inclusion.

Q: Do you support more recycling?

A: Yes.

Q: Do you support a scheme where you pay extra for stuff you buy, keep it separate, and put it into a machine where you may not always get your extra back. Meanwhile also paying for recycling collections kerbside?

A: Feck off with yerself!

What half & half do you refer to?

"clearly it annoys as many citizens as not" is a turn of phrase, not literal. Like many turns of phrase, an accurate generalisation imho.

The scheme needs to be 1 euro a small bottle and 2 euro a bigger bottle. 15c and 25 c dont even register with the students i deal with. They have cars, canada goose jackets, cocaine habits and prosecco. I earn multiples of their parents allowances and still fish bottles out of bins. The notion that students are poor is beyond laugable,

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Fine, these lads?