Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Yea I take your point but we are not talking about the same regime or Russia now.

Barring a complete collapse of the Putin regime (Which does not seem likely at all) then there is no hope that they will pull out of the annexed territories by choice. So then the only option is taking it back by force, and nothing suggests that Ukraine have anywhere near the capabilities to achieve this, and it would require US/west backing on a whole other level to what we see at present to be able to achieve this.

This could well be the last big aid package to Ukraine from the USA (certainly if Trump wins in November). Europe really does need to step up now. That means ramping up production of munitions and planning for a long conflict. Yes we would all love it if Russia collapsed and melted away but it's foolish to base plans around that possibility.

Absolutely, yeah. Putin can in no way be trusted, so there must be a guarantee which would extend beyond his word.

This would probably mean Ukraine agreeing to cede some of their internationally-recognised territory, though. Crimea, at least, because I don't think NATO would want to set up in a country that is partly occupied by an aggressive neighbour.

I see one of the biggest useful idiots took the result well anyway

The "I am scandalised by people waving Ukrainian flags in congress" angle is especially disingenuous and petty.

I strongly suspect that the majority of people using it would have no problems with congressmen waving Israeli flags.

So peace on Russias terms.

Nope, the world needs to see you can’t illegally invade a country and get to keep a portion of that country.

So the war goes on until Russia goes back home.

Just noticing lots of accounts crawling out of the woodwork the last days showing so much concern for US spending and convinced of the idea that Ukraine must make a deal and they can't get their territory back. Must mean we've done something right anyway. Really nice to see. 🙂

Its funny how much pro putin commentators come out with calls for peace and doom and gloom about Ukraine's chances of defending itself from putin's terrorists just when billions of dollars of new funding for the weapons they can use to help themselves becomes available. Hope the US arms industry uses this new money now to demonstrate how well their latest weapons can make bits of putin's mob of genocidal terrorists. Modern fighter jets, Apache attack helicopters, long range missiles, proper mine clearing equipment and decent numbers of tanks could make a big deference and I don't think Ukraine will be in any mood to make moskovytes welcome to stay in Ukraine when they get better supplies of the tools to deal with them.

Can you imagine how the average Russian feels? He / She cannot even protest..and their lives are getting harder and harder each day! Increasing taxation, high inflation, Ruble devalueing, increasing shortages of basic foodstuffs and the ever-present danger of being conscripted.

For all the hatred of America. The world turns its eyes to America in crisis. I'm happy to see my tax $ make some of ye happy.