Deposit return scheme (recycling)

absolutely stupid. now we have the cap in the way and annoying you when you drink or you tear it off and end up with 3 bits of plastic instead of the normal 2.

Lidl today wicklow Town 2 machines down this evening. Shed filling up at home. Stinking cans. Have decided from today to buy only glass bottle beer from now on. This whole thing is a complete joke.

This 500ml thing has the logo, RVMs reject it. Re-turn say the Vit-Hit barcode is not in the scheme, so why does it have the logo? Parallel import?

No, it came from a vending machine.

Where's the list of counties?

This link gives the full list.

https://www.irishtimes.com/environment/2024/01/26/are-there-toxic-chemicals-in-your-drinking-water-full-list-of-areas-with-elevated-levels-of-thms/

Nothing to be found on water.ie. No surprise there. I'm assuming the Indo article leads on from this EU Court Of Justice ruling from January this year:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ireland-found-guilty-of-failing-to-ensure-safe-drinking-water-by-eu-court-1579795.html

THMs are considered dangerous to both human health and the environment with high levels of THMs linked to diseases of the liver, kidney and central nervous system as well as bladder and colon cancer.

They can also cause gastrointestinal problems and skin irritation.

The findings by the CJEU relate to 21 public water supplies and nine private water group schemes.

The public water schemes include those supplying drinking water to Kilkenny c=City; Bray, Co Wicklow; Schull, Co Cork; Ring, Co Waterford; Glenties, Co Donegal; Greystones, Co Wicklow; and Granard, Co Longford.

Other than that I guess wait to see if we get a leaflet through the door unless someone else can find anything better.

Like I said a few times on thread. If anything good comes from this scheme it will be that people will invest in cleaning their drinking / cooking water supply with an under sink filter (or if theres anything else I'd be interested to hear about it for sure) as it will be more cost effective than bottled water with Re-Turn deposits added.

This is the full list from the Irish Times article I linked earlier.

It should be widely available especially as during the Summer people will be moving around the country more.

West Clare – Regional Water Supply (New Water Treatment Plant) – Population: 8,702

West Clare – Regional Water Supply (Old Water Treatment Plant) – 3,028

Cork – Mitchelstown North – 2,317

Cork – Castletownbere – 2,328

Donegal – Lettermacaward – 2,266

Donegal – Glenties-Ardara – 3,518

Donegal – Milford – 3,714

Kerry – Aughacasla – 340

Kerry – Cahersiveen – 1,500

Kerry – CaraghLake – 1,866

Kerry – Listowel – 14,905

Kerry – Kilgarvan – 656

Kerry – Lyreacrompane – 2,490

Kilkenny City Radestown – 14,162

Limerick City Environs – 114,764

Longford Central – 17,354

Meath – Drumconrath – 1,151

Meath – Navan 10.360

Offaly – Clare/Ferbane – 7,341

Roscommon – North East Regional – 7,997

Tipperary – Nenagh – 14,483

Tipperary – Thurles – 11,394

Wicklow – Aughrim/Annacurra – 1,583

Surely return numbers will never reached the wanted figures?

For example - at an Intercounty match yesterday, between both panels and management there were probably 60 bottles of water (with logos) opened and about 40 Lucozade Sports (with logos). Logic would say that 0 of those will be returned via a machine. The team is getting screwed every matchday.

I dunno. Intercounty with a million people in and around the setup, that just becomes a mess with things getting lost.

Hell of a leap to 0. The club hosting the game would collect any & bring them back, same as they'll be doing at training/matches already.

Still think 'on the go' will be the biggest problem for the scheme. Are people going to go out of their way to find a machine/bring it home or just pop it in nearest bin. If you don't use cash at all would you be bothered for 20c. Can see a lot being left on tables for others to return though

I always recycle my plastic bottles, cans and cardboard, in the green bin outside my front door - which I pay a monthly fee for.

This morning I had to bring a bag of cans and bottles to a machine to recycle them, instead of putting them in the bin right outside my front door, to get my deposits back.

That is futile. We should have one system or the other, but not both.

When it works it fine, except for the lack of direct payment. No doubt that was at the behest of the retailers as it gives them almost guaranteed spend.

The issues, as with all these type of rollouts, is that not enough is done to ensure that there are minimal issues.

Broken machines, retailers charging deposits on products not part of the scheme (older stock), machines refusing what appears to be perfectly fine products. Issues with delivery services.

All of that should have been forseen and extra care taken to minimise their occurance to avoid any rejection of the scheme.

Like the smoking ban, plastic ban levy etc, eventually it will all work out but why the disregard for peoples obvious reluctantance which will only increase if things don't work.

Those who will recycle will do it. Dirtbags who litter aren't going to change their tune for a few cent.

If the local councils would actually collect rubbish from public bins, but also install segregated bins to allow for recycling and composting in public, we wouldn't need this stupid system.

Aside from a photo op, does anyone honestly think Simon or Caoimhe Harris are going to be rocking up to their local Aldi with a bag of cans anytime soon?