"Green" policies are destroying this country

My understanding from people in the business is that you can scrap a high mileage EV once over 3 years old and get a €20k grant to buy another. Not very consistent with the dictat to drive your car into the ground.

By the way what do people who cant afford new cars do under this wonderful saving the world policy? Feck off any cycle I suppose

It's a bog standard tactic from the Green zealots to claim anyone who disagrees with them, in any way, is a "climate-change denier" (not "anti-climate" or a "climate denier" which is even more bizarre and doesn't make sense). Once I see that rubbish I put them on ignore.

So your take on the drop in sales of EV`s is basically that those that already own one are not trading them in for newer models because the EV`s they currently have are virtually worthless and for them to have any value on a trade in the price of a new EV will have to increase.

Good luck with that, but in the real world of financial outlay there are two adages that cover that. For anyone contemplating buying their first "Buyer beware" and anyone that already owns one "Once bitten twice shy".

Ah Ive just realised Im not on the Motors Forum, mea culpa

Just a throwaway comment on why you might only refer to diesels in the context of an ICE discussion. A bit facile I admit

You could do us both a favor and cut out the condescending nonsense. I`m around too long to not see it for what it is here. Greens running for the moral high ground whenever they are asked the financial cost or the cost of human lives by introducing policies they favor.

So….. any answer as to what culling cattle here will do for climate change, how much will this 37GW offshore + hydrogen plan cost, even though it would not meet our projected 2050 requirements, what would the ban on pesticides, herbicides, chemical and fertilisers without any alternatives, that the greens favor do as regards global food security, and whats with this dodgy E.U. bookkeeping on wood burning or indeed the equally dodgy, (that it took the Irish Advertising Standards Authority to show for what it is) gaurantee certificates on green electricity ?

Take it up with your fellow green supporter of EV`s I was replying too. That is the term he used.

Once again, the conversation is veering towards politics. I must admit, I’m not particularly fond of the current administration. My financial situation is not what it was a few years ago, and I attribute a significant portion of it to their actions. However, I firmly believe in the necessity of Green policies. If individuals struggle to adjust to these policies, it reflects more on their adaptability than the policies themselves. I’m not an agriculturist, but I do comprehend the advantages of pesticides at a domestic level. Simultaneously, I acknowledge that I shouldn’t be utilising them and am actively seeking alternatives. Is it necessary for the government to guide you through life, making every decision on your behalf? Must they force, pull, and coerce you into every life alteration? Absolutely not. It’s time to mature, consider the future inhabitants of this planet a century from now, and make an effort. I confess, I’m not well-versed in politics. Yet, here I am, debating with individuals who are set in their ways, quick to point fingers at the Green party, oblivious to the urgent need for substantial changes in our planetary lifestyle.

Have you numbers to back that up? My experience was no drop in second hand diesel prices of relevance? My car wasn't one caught cheating so maybe that's something to do with it. And second hand prices rose dramatically since then, nearly surpassing new prices for the same car at one stage. My diesel car is valued the same now as it was in 2019 despite being 5 years older and 5 years more kms on it.