Deposit return scheme (recycling)

The barcode is the main proof to the machine that the can/bottle is in the scope of the scheme. For high volume lines like coke cans there will be separate barcodes for ROI and NI stock. If you didnt have the barcodes the scope for fraud would be major.

Was in Lidl today with a bag full of recycling. Machine stopped working after a few bottles so moved to other one, same thing happened.

Coincidentally, there was a staff member in the vicinity. He was extremely gruff when I told him. He told me, tersely, to "read the instructions". It was at that stage I noticed a printed out A4 page stuck on the front of the machine. These instructions were supplementary to the other instructions printed on the actual machine!

Anyways these additional instructions tell you to take the tops off all bottles. Surprised that this was necessary. So this means that I now have to recycle the tops separately?? I guess the machines can't compact them with the lids on.

TLDR: Lidl staff not very happy to deal with you about machines.

We're getting mixed messages about bottle caps putting shyite RVMs out of order. Meanwhile in Australia:

We could have created a similar scheme instead of a money grabbing shambles.

I was great at recycling for the last 15 years plus in blue bins and black bins. Now I don't give a dam about any of it. Because of this new bull **** I'm paying twice now. And it doesn't suit me at the moment. To bring back bottles I will burn them now

The shop assistants at my local village shop said the same thing about caps yesterday. There is a small machine there and it’s not been in a month yet and has been out of action for most of that time. They’re fed up having to talk about it already.

There is no way shops will ever breakeven let alone make money on this scheme.

Cost of initial POS system update and ongoing licence/support fee.

Cost of Machine, installation and Maintenance.

Cost of Electricity.

Cost of manpower.

Loss from of reduced shelf space.

Were the retailer's forced to sign up to this .and whats the reason for not taking dog/cat food tins.

If you don't take the payout receipt in time, the machine snaps it back. You then have to get a member of staff to get the key to open up the machine and find the bit of paper

Seems they're deleting posts on social media again, guessing they arent getting the warm fuzzy responses to the bullsiht they're peddling

Where there's muck there's brass, particularly when you are carrying 15 ton of it in the back of your work vehicle…

https://www.tiktok.com/@brooksie..d/video/7356135857037888801

I'd be surprised if it was only the one branch that had these new additional instructions stuck up on them. I assume the machines are all the same?

Funnily enough, today I was shown a video of a recycling truck from a nameless company parked up by an Aldi RVM, the two lads from it pulling containers out of two massive black bags and stuffing them into the machine. They might be getting that money one way or another...

Edit: oops I think that video that was taken down might have been it

Ive nothing against this. Waste collectors making the best of it and can see it being a regular occurrence (probably a lot more regular in future) for them to get lost revenue back. Could even be a necessity to prevent job losses. However doesn't this inflate the numbers? The Re-Turn spoofers will be on the radio again soon testifying the return % is rising hence public engagement with the scheme is rising.

Machines getting filled up then needing emptied by retail staff to get them back online. Machines also off limits to the public while this is happening whereas before Re-Turn the waste collectors simply emptied the green / blue bin and off to separate etc. at their own premises. Job done.

This scheme just doesn't fit with what we have. Crowbarred in by a bunch of gombeen chancers.

Same never an issue with bottle caps attached to bottles and going into a Lidl machine=before the DRS.