Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Look, you object to a perfectly legitimate descriptive word.

Whatever about fighting elections, what other parties did or didn't do, what way the wind was blowing on election day, effectively power swapped between FF and FG since independence. We know no other parties as leaders in government.

It is basic English. End of discussion now. Your objection is noted.

Swap implies a quid pro quo, a planned exchange. Not definitively the case when parties alertnately won elections. "They swapped" versus "was swapped" are also different in implication.

Anyway, who's available to carry the cónra? Ferris, Quinlivan, Adams and Carthy for the first lift. It would only be right.

Not 'fooled'.

I'm a realist, I understood even when voting for them that FG and FF were not perfect, that I didn't subscribe to all of their policy. No different when I decided to vote for SF. I don't defend them on every single issue that comes up around them or all of their policy, for instance.

You may be confused, Enda certainly did 'fool' me with his New Politics nonsense. I left the FG cult, (around 20% are still being fooled) behind after 2016 when I realised he nor FG was ever going to deliver on those promises.

Despite the denials, he is on record as claiming to have been fooled for decades by the two main parties. That was the language used, and yes, that was right up until the 2020 election when he started voting for Sinn Fein for the first time. I will leave it there, it is all on record.

Here is an exchange between us in 2022 when you tried this on as well.

Blanch: Wait a minute, you have confessed to being fooled for 50 years. I haven't convicted based just on an allegation - it is your self-confessed position that politicians are clever enough to fool you for 50 years.

I see nothing that would convince me that you aren't still being fooled.

FrancieBrady: Where did I confess to being fooled for 50 years? I'm pretty sure I said the watershed moment for me was Enda's bullshit about new politics.

I got fooled again in 2016 but that was the end of it.

People still in captivity shouldn't be throwing stones.

I never said I was fooled for 50 years but freely admit to being fooled by Enda, as we all, including you, were.

When you’re explaining...again, you mean.

blanch, never showed where I had 'confessed I was fooled for 50 years'.

Spoofing now as he was then.

Yes.

Had a read of the thread there and even though the poster clarified that he/she was not interested in voting for SF you and a few others insisted on talking about SF. When your own not much older account got found out on taxes you immediately deflected to Paddy Cosgrove who isn't in any political party nor setting up one.

Were you, a relatively new account, not attacking a poster too? Is there anything I said not true?

You certainly kept saying they were found out when the OP repeatedly was saying they were not advocating voting for SF. Then when you were found out yourself you deflected to Paddy Cosgrove. About right? I think I have described the course of that thread quite accurately.

P.S. Policies will only be 'found out' when they are implemented.

Well Clo Clo did a bit of scrutinising on that thread and got it wrong...then tried to divert to something else. People have opinions on policy, no doubt.

All sorts of policies have been proposed and weren’t found out by scrutiny over the years. Some worked others didn’t. And all of them had naysayers and yehsayers before they were implemented. The recent referendums are just one example.

YOU brought an attack on another poster into this thread. When challenged on your own performance on that thread you get all huffy.

Since the dawn of this state policies have been proposed, implemented and failed as well as succeeded. I’m trying to think of a proposed policy which hasn’t had it’s detractors but can’t think of a single one.

SF’s are no different.