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How do you emigrate

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    #62
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828666#Comment_121828666

    How was it easier in the 1980s?

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/144517058#/?channel=RES_NEW

    In Ireland 22km distance from a major city where could you purchase a new house for under 200k?



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    #63
    salonfire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828374#Comment_121828374

    What a sad, sad line of thinking you have been indoctrinated into. Because you are also a state employee, you feel it is your duty to interject and stickup for those earning 1.5 times the relative pittance you earn, simply because they are state employees. You cannot see past this to the actual facts.

    I was responding to the myth that teachers pay was crap from another poster.

    I responded with actual facts backed up with Revenue data. A concept that is alien to you no doubt. You'd prefer to swallow the propaganda - no questions asked. You can't accept that I was correct and instead have to imply I am soap boxing. Correcting misinformation is not soap boxing.

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    #64
    dxhound2005
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829448#Comment_121829448

    That would be around €230,000. And it is not the sale price. Other houses in that street sold from £220,000 upwards.

    If money is the issue, a second hand house could be a better bargain than a new one. It is easy to check the real price achieved for all the houses sold in Ireland. Some under that sort of money in places like Balbriggan and Tallaght in the last few months.

    https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/



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    #65
    Danny Drier
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭Danny Drier


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058337677/how-do-you-emigrate

    Apt username is apt.



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    #66
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829594#Comment_121829594

    My point was more about the idea that it was easier to emigrate in the 1980s how exactly was it easier?



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    #67
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,215 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121812604#Comment_121812604

    UK teachers earn substantially less than Irish teachers, I find that statistic quite interesting given the shortage of teachers in both countries



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    #68
    YellowLead
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830019#Comment_121830019

    Pretty sure UK teachers don’t get as much time off either. Would be a no brainer to do it here if the pay really is less in the UK.



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    #69
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829582#Comment_121829582

    The bitterness is incredible, but also totally irrelevant as the OP did not say they were working as a teacher (many people with H.Dips are not).

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #70
    salonfire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭salonfire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830895#Comment_121830895

    Correcting misinformation is not bitterness. My first contribution to this thread was to correct the misconception that teachers pay was terrible as mentioned by other poster.



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    #71
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I hadn't see this till now but to throw in my experience. I moved to germany 2 years ago. I don't speak german. I switched my LinkedIn to available for opportunities and set the location to EU and was approached by a German recruitment firm.

    Now I work in a very narrow area. There's not that many people with my qualifications and experience. So I was recruited to work for a german supermarket chain (You guys probably have a 50% chance of guessing which one) in their website. All communications and work is done in english. So i don't need German at all.

    I live in the very centre of Dusseldorf and pay a ridiculous amount for rent. It's ridiculous for germany. I'm paying just over 1000 for an 90m2 apartment. I could have gotten a smaller apartment for a fraction of the price. But considering that's the price of a bedroom in a lot of Dublin, I still consider myself lucky. I have a far better standard of life her than I did in Ireland.

    My advice would be to pop onto linked in and see if there's jobs available in your area of expertise in Europe. If the job is advertised in English then you have a decent hope of the company working through English. And then just start applying.

    A separate thing you might want to try is teaching english. I have some friends who did a TEFL and moved to places like Taiwan and Korea. the money is really good and they were able to save a lot.



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    #72
    Trigger Happy
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    Have you ever lived away from your parents OP? If you have then thats a help.

    But if you have never lived away from your parents...or never lived in a different city or country to where your parents live you might find it very difficult.

    Living on your own in a strange city with no one to come get you if something goes wrong can be a bit daunting. You need to be ready for the reality of what that means.

    Otherwise- as said in this thread previously - decide where you want to go.

    Research if you can get a visa there.

    Research if you can get a job there.

    Research how much that job will pay.

    Research how much take home pay you will get before tax.

    Research rents and cost of living and ensure that the sums add up - that you can surivive.

    Research how to get temporary accomodation when you arrive.

    Research how to get permanent accomodation and what the local market is like.

    Figure out how much money you need to emigrate and keep yourself alive until first paycheck. Double that.

    Maybe visit your chosen location for a holiday and see if you like it.


    But most importantly - be sure that a move to a different country will actually solve your perceived problems.



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    #73
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831198#Comment_121831198

    crap pay is subjective, last year someone tried to argue with me that 60k wasn't a great salary their house income is 120k as their wife has the same job as them, and they would not believe that would put them in the top 10 or 15% of household incomes in Ireland. They FEEL they are not on a good salary.

    A few months ago a family man from NI had a substantial lotto win he was a truck driver, and he was asked what he wanted to do with his win, he said to take his family abroad on holiday they had never been on a holiday abroad.



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    #74
    Wanderer78
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    when stating rates of pay, mentioning the rate of increase in rent and the price of housing should also really be included as this is where the real problems lie!



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    #75
    I see sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831815#Comment_121831815
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4g6k1a4XYA&ab_channel=scallly

    Reminds my of this wally



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    #76
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831815#Comment_121831815

    The problem is that 60k is kinda ****. Don't get me wrong, it's far more than loads make. But it doesn't go as far as it used to or as far as it does in other European countries. And the biggest thing is housing. If you're renting it sucks up your money. Here in germany I notice that some things like meat are more expensive. Some things like alcohol are cheaper. I'd say that excluding rent my cost of living is pretty equivalent to what I paid in Ireland. The big difference is accommodation costs.



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    #77
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831198#Comment_121831198

    I didn't make any comment on teachers' pay, just your obsession with off-topic posting. OP has not stated they are a teacher.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #78
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    I suspect all this is a moot point the OP wants to skip over the UK, the easiest and most accessible way to do what she wants, the OP is talking about San Francisco and New York.



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    #79
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,843 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831900#Comment_121831900

    america would be interesting, but i suspect very difficult to make a start there, and with the way its politics is going, id be seriously reluctant.....



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    #80
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831883#Comment_121831883

    Guy actually has a Wikipedia page!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Barber

    Jolyon Maugham, a barrister specialising in tax law, has confirmed that an income of £80,000+ per year would in fact place Barber in the top three per cent of UK earners.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #81
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Housing is a lot of issue in Ireland.

    I can never understand why we don't have shared ownership in Ireland.

    A very nuanced shared ownership in Ireland would go a long way to helping the situation.

    By nuanced I mean no shared ownership in and where 'desirable' trendy, hipster, as that would only put prices up and only be available for apartments it would be aimed at a way of getting single buyers on a low to medium-income part ownership of a property.



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    #82
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,843 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831956#Comment_121831956

    ...the problem is, vested interests dont want things to change cause the current situation benefits them, so happy days!



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    #83
    username2013
    Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭username2013


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121813444#Comment_121813444

    I live in Canada and it's not true you wont be able to buy a house. Yes, buying in the major urban areas such as Toronto or Vancouver is a nightmare at the moment, but if you are willing to move outside these areas, houses are much more affordable. With remote work nowadays this is an option a lot of people have taken. I have a 4 bed detached house about an hour outside of Toronto which in Euro terms cost me about 450k.

    I lived in the UK before too and you could not pay me to go back - so many sh*t-holes in England it's unbelievable. Horrible council houses in horrible estates with no character whatsoever and everyone stuck up on top of each other in semi-detached houses. Ugh.



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    #84
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832070#Comment_121832070

    That's the very same in Ireland. And probably everywhere. If you are willing to move to where property is cheaper, you will find cheaper property. If a person is prepared to emigrate because they live in a high property price area in Ireland, they could just as easily relocate within Ireland to solve the property price problem.



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    #85
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I lived in the UK and Canada in my 20s and loved it. Don't discount the UK. There's some very nice cities there and many of the people I know that went there did OK for themselves. No visas, it's not too far from home and you won't experience much culture shock there.

    Canada is great as well. It was very expensive when I went in the early 2010s so I'd say it's even more so now. I had €5000 saved when I went to Canada. It was enough to get me started but I was lucky in that I found work quick enough and lived in a hostel for a few weeks until I got a place sorted. You wouldn't be too long going through your money if you weren't working. I applied for the visa through USIT at the time but I think they're gone now.

    It's an exciting time when you make the move. Everything is new and you're meeting new people as well. You will definitely be out of your comfort zone for a while but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Enjoy it if you do make the move somewhere.



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    #86
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,843 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832551#Comment_121832551

    ...again, this is a highly simplistic view on how to solve our property price problems, simply moving wont solve the overall problem, as theres clearly severe dysfunctions now occurring, as theres now serious fundamental problems with the overall model on how we approach housing, and yes, we re currently not the only country currently experiencing this, so this is a much bigger global problem....



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    #87
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832551#Comment_121832551

    It's not quite the same. In other countries when they say move somewhere smaller they mean a town of 100k. In ireland it means up the side of a mountain.



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    #88
    thereiver
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭thereiver


    You can buy a house in Ireland if you are willing to live in a small town. I have no idea if a hdip degree of the type you have will get you a job that allows remote work

    I mean in the 80s house prices were alot cheaper than they are now in English speaking countrys



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    #89
    Kurooi
    Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭Kurooi


    Don't drop non English speaking countries. I met plenty of people in Germany, Netherlands, Sweden to name a few who in professional settings speak English. Their workplaces are English. Some cities and workplaces over others.

    Whether you're going to EU or outside, it would help immensely to secure a job first. And you should have some savings. I mean you have to live a month before the paycheck comes in.



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    #90
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,839 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828415#Comment_121828415

    If parents are minted, they should just gift cash to their children while they’re still alive. Obviously not massive lump sums.

    otherwise the state will come looking for one third of pretty much everything….



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    #91
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121833422#Comment_121833422

    I only do that if they were standing on their own two feet first and had developed an adult-to-adult relationship especially not seeing a room in the parent house as a fallback position.

    The ability to live in a parent's house well into their 30s does seem to stunt someone's growth as a person and I'm not convinced it's always to do with the cost of accommodation either.



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