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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭electricus


    After my last Volkswagen service (ID.3) oil change and spark plugs had ticks next to them on the checklist. Brakes and fluid were not ticked, even though they were due a 2 year check.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Honestly at my last service I was expecting a panicked call from the dealership saying the catalytic converter was missing from my ID.4 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Ye don't really believe this clickbait, what dealer would be writing up a letter and posting it in 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,315 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Often they give you paperwork after a service that has oil changed etc. They use a standard template. I find dealers make up any old rubbish to drive up quotes on service. It's real cowboy stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The Kenmare Bay Hotel & Resort have just installed 50 (fifty) chargers, and for at least 2024 (and hopefully beyond), charging is completely free.

    Charging here is not a possibility, it’s guaranteed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That's insane. Fair play. Doesnt need to be free, I'd prefer if it werent. But available to use is much more important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭crl84


    Could you provide a link? Couldn't see anything on their fb/insta, and nothing added to Plugshare yet.

    Presume they're all 3/7kw AC?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's cross posted across all the EV facebook groups this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭crl84


    Thanks, looks like it's free for hotel guests only, which makes more sense. Comment under the post says it's a mix of 7KW and 22KW chargers.:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/IEVOA/posts/3619566844951244/

    "Hi folks. Besides being a tesla driver for nearly 6 years I am also a hotelier. My hotel the Kenmare Bay Hotel & Resort has just done something very radical re electric vehicle chargers. We have put in 50 (fifty) chargers. The idea is to make charging at the hotel a guarantee not a possibility therefore getting rid of any anxiety whatsoever and making it very convenient.

    Also all hotel guests will receive free charging at least for the whole of 2024 and probably beyond.

    The hotel is completing it renovation to 4 star and has great offers at the moment.

    Sunday to Thursday inclusive you can get a room for 95 euro plus your free charging. A deal and a half.

    Thank you."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,315 ✭✭✭zg3409




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,265 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Great gesture and all, but let’s be realistic here. They are obviously making enough € to fund this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well they don't seem any more expensive than other similar hotels around Ireland, so I'll turn it around and ask why other hotels aren't installing banks of destination chargers

    There's a few around which seems to be getting on board with EV charging, whereas most hotels will either do nothing or install a token charger which gets broken and never fixed

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ Armando Nutritious Giraffe


    Don't know about anybody else, but I reckon the Kia EV9 is one of the ugliest things I've seen on four wheels in quite a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It's absolutely disgusting looking it looks like a Lego car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭wassie


    Test drove one last week. Actually quite impressed and the the white was much more impressive up close than any photos show. Found the front end was actually well styled and it had a very practical interior. But with a 100kWh battery it was always going to be an expensive car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I think it looks well actually, just too expensive for a Kia. If it were 67 instead of 87k for the AWD I'd already have one.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,315 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Reading the details hotel was closed for refurbishment. Part of planning was probably some chargers and ducting. Owner is an EV driver so decided to roll out massive numbers of EV chargers. I presume costs will be expensed against taxes paid, but still heavy upfront cost if you assume each pair is 2k x 25 =50k. He probably should have promoted it a bit better in terms of free charging and special offers for next 2 months just opened low season. As in proper press release with details on hotel website.

    Potentially the chargers could be a good income when they go pay and it may drive business and day lunch business from other hotels.

    I expect even though they are all 22kW (claimed), they may only be 11kW each if two cars plugged into same unit, and across all the 50 there is probably load management with a limit of say 50kW across all but also measuring grid limit for hotel when hotel is at peak usage such as during a wedding. Medium to long term a higher grid connection may be needed for all 50 to be used at the same time but that's not likely for a long time and most users will be staying all night so reduced power may not even be noticed. Maintenance costs could be high if they have inbuilt billing and in general these units tend to break especially if used a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Firblog


    Not necessarily, they're probably investing in charging points to attract business, they now have a facility that other hotels in the area don't. Given the choice of two equal hotels, costing the same, which are you going to book? The one with multiple chargers, or a different one with no or very few chargers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    yep, stayed in a hotel just outside Galway last month, and chose to stay at the one with 8x AC chargers in the carpark, and although they cost more than the 2 Tesla Superchargers I'd pass on the way home, I still topped up to 98% at the hotel as it meant I could get all the way home without a stop...


    Judging by the responses to the Facebook posts above, the hotel should be fairly busy over the next few weeks/months, and that spike in bookings alone will have probably paid a good chunk of the CapEx of installing the chargers back to the hotel... win win...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,322 ✭✭✭obi604


    Hi

    Maybe not the right thread.....

    I haven’t had to do a vehicle report in about 4 years so am out of the loop a bit. What’s the best one these days- cartell, motorcheck etc


    specifically looking for one that mentions Cat C or Cat D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,106 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Youtube tells me it's carvertical in every second video despite having premium YT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Apple have bowed out of the EV space

    I think they poached a bunch of Tesla folk at one point. Elon is apparently happy about the development!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Motorcheck would appear to be the most recommended but I wouldn’t 100% trust any of them. Maybe get a mechanic to check if you’re suspicious. https://www.backroads.ie/forum/car-related/r-roads/955509-vehicle-history-checks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭sk8board


    It’s almost certainly the case that they’ve decided the car market is too regulated for them, and indeed also that heavy duty software projects like level 4/5 FSD isn’t possible with current cars and hardware (this decision probably foretells the next few years of the Teslas level 2 driver assistant too, and that it won’t be possible for Tesla to accept insurance liability, which is now the L3 benchmark).

    Apple have a great opportunity to own the in-car software without having to think about building a whole car - I sit into my car every day and wireless Apple CarPlay is onscreen before my ass is even on the seat, and I never ever use anything else.

    i actually think I won’t buy any more cars that don’t have it.

    the new versions of CarPlay can control the instrument clusters too, and they’ll go that direction now.

    and finally - I think with all the Ai hype, Apple have a chance to move thousands of top engineers on to their Ai projects and push those instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭wassie


    It’s almost certainly the case that they’ve decided the car market is too regulated for them...

    I would think ultimately it purely economic decision. Apple were years away from producing a car and would have accepted the simple fact that building cars at scale is very, very difficult and very, very expensive. To do so from scratch is even more challenging.

    With global demand for EVs cooling, increasing cost of capital and logistic challenges, it just gets harder to justify the money required to continue development for an uncertain result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Well the solution to ‘difficult’ is hiring thousands of industry experts, which they did, many from Tesla.

    the solution to ‘expensive’ is money, plain and simple - and they have more cash reserves than any company on the planet.


    look at mobile phone or PC regulations - there’s almost nothing about the design of a mobile that’s affected by the reg’s, whereas the design and build of a car is completely dictated by regulations.


    apple can control the in-car experience by becoming the manufacturer ICE for both screen and instruments.

    apple CarPlay is a class leader by a considerable margin for 3rd party ICE software. I can’t imagine not having it. That’s far cheaper than having Foxconn factories building you a car, and clearly the price stickiness for EVs has completely evaporated, even those much-discussed Tesla margins are starting to drop below 15-20% and will go lower - and we know how Apple loves margin.

    theres very little attractiveness to building your own EV at this point in time. Watch governments change those 2030/35 guidelines in the coming months and years

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


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    Who said Tesla makes efficient cars? 😊. My school run this morning took only 2 hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,723 ✭✭✭✭josip


    You didn't take a Tesla car today by the looks of it, you had a Tesla space heater on wheels. I'd love to see the breakdown of your energy consumption for that trip.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Apple can't even make their own hardware. They hadn't a hope of competing.



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