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NEW 2022 Assistant Principal Competition - Open and Interdepartmental

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Tony29




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 PBR


    Well done, unfortunately for me my Department has no vacancies so I’ll likely have to leave when I see what I’m offered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭HydroTendonMan


    Thanks Tony! Have you had an interview? I'm on mobile and can't see your posts for some reason.

    That is unfortunate, but I will say that it happened to me when I got HEO on InterD and I wouldn't have gotten the experience to get AP without that move. Could be a blessing in disguise! Hope you get a good move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Tony29


    Yes, I had my interview last week of Jan 2024, on the Interd and open panels. Sent in my clearance yesterday, my current Dept has no vacancies either.

    Glad that I got through the 3 stages on this occasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    Well done all. I started yesterday. InterD post in a new Dept. Huge eye-opener. So different but very interesting. Can already see its a huge step up but looking forward to it. Just hoping I get paid on time next week now 🙈



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭HydroTendonMan


    Well done, that's great to hear. I hope you get a good post!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭HydroTendonMan


    Best of luck Swilly, hope it goes well for you. Are you still paid fortnightly? Wasn't sure if AP was fortnightly or monthly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 TheGoreyDetail


    I got an offer today for Dept of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration & Youth so they are working their way through the panel quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 busher07




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 TheGoreyDetail


    Thank you busher07, much appreciated 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Hollowstarz


    Is this correct in terms of numbers? I am between 995-1111 and have heard nothing at all from PAS?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 busher07


    Yes Hollowstarz that is correct I am between those numbers too and hope to hear from PAS over the next month but depends what numbers they decide to call and when they reach those numbers they do a shortlisting so we would need to make the cut on that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭delricyo


    Got the results of shortlisting today. Extremely disappointed that I failed on all areas except one.

    I already was getting myself in the mindset for the analysis exercise and interview so I am gutted. This is the first time in over ten years that I haven't been shortlisted for a competition (AO/HEO/AP - several of each)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Ciaran1239


    Received an email today to tell me that after a year of hearing nothing, I am not among the candidates being selected for stage 3 interview process on the basis that my initial application form, submitted over a year ago, did not meet the required criteria as per the review of shortlisting board. Can I ask, has anyone else who proceeded to stage 3 interviews, been asked to submit a new application form? I have been a part of panels previously and while I was successful, I know people were asked to submit new application forms if enough time had passed (obvious enough because they would need to update their experience). I though that would have been standard, considering I filled out that form initially in late 2022, and I've moved on considerably in terms of experience since then. Just seems annoyign that I'll have to potentially wait another year to even apply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭757TFFIU


    Been there before with a HEO competition. It's not a nice feeling to go down on such a small margin. I'd almost prefer to fail spectacularly than go down on one competency.

    What I would say is stick in an informal appeal. Worst they'll do is say no. If it's what you want to do though, be quick. I think you've only 5 days to submit an informal appeal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭delricyo


    Yeah, I know a guy who applied for HEO when he was just promoted from CO to EO. His form was poor - in his own words. Luckily they didn't shortlist for that competition and he was able to use the interview to show how well he did.


    I agree with you above. Since I submitted my form, we got a new PO in our section who is approaching things in a new way. New projects to be done and new ways of doing all our work. It is a shame that I wont get a chance to show off my 2023 experiences...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭delricyo


    Thanks for the advice - I will definitely consider doing this.


    Just to point out, I failed on all areas except one. The one I passed, I only got the pass score!

    I can understand it if it were my first AP application, but with nearly 9 years as HEO and about 5 AP competitions under my belt - it gets more frustrating



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    Hi no I wasn't. Applied for the 2022 comp, stage 3 completed Dec 2023 & I was asked for no updated info



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    I'm so sorry to hear this. How frustrating. Go again. Best of luck



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭cyrils foxpit


    I got an email saying I am through to the next stage of interview and exercise. I am just settled into a new role a grade below so this was a bit of a shock.

    Does anyone already appointed know the set up with remote working, I know it differs from Dept to Dept but would it be common place and what would the normal pattern be (2 days in office ??).

    I am 100 miles from Dublin, hence the question :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Disney2003


    Hi, I just got the email to say I may be called for interview. I had totally written this off. Can someone please advise what is involved at the next stage and any advise on how to prepare ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    I started this week straight into 2 days in office, 3 days wfh. The Dept & section I left doesn't allow wfh for a year for new staff. It really varies from place to place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    You will have a strategic analysis exercise & interview all on the same day. Topics given maybe 2 weeks before. Check out Programme for Government. You will get 4 topics from this. Choose one. Analyse the policy, 2 page report & 4 slide PowerPoint. I used the SWOT method. 10 mins of questions on your presentation things like why you chose it, how Ireland compares to other countries, & probing your findings. Break it down, its not as bad as it sounds. Include the competencies & key skills. For interview just know your examples inside out. The Board will guide you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Im in DSP and all new staff, including internally promoted APs are expected in the office full time for at least a year...other departments may differ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Onion87


    I'm the same, I live 100km from Dublin. This is the first I'm hearing of that rule for certain depts and that wouldn't be feasible for me. I think if I was offered a position in such a dept, I would have to turn it down ☹️ Do they tell you the WFH arrangements when they first offer you a position? Also, I'm assuming if you turn down your first offer (open stream), you are then completely out of the competition? They hardly offer you a second position on open stream? Or can you turn down the first location offer and wait for an offer on the second location choice, if it arises?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 koneill2020


    Hi All,

    first time poster here! Currently on open panel for this competition and am new to the civil service. Can anyone advise if PAS skills match you to the department you’re assigned? Or if you can request a department to be assigned to? Not sure how any of this works.

    thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    I got a provisional offer from PAS by email. They asked if I'd like to contact the new Dept directly for further info before deciding. Of course I said yes. Took about a week for someone to call me. I was told 2 days in the office and so i accepted.


    Perhaps we could share on here our knowledge of Depts blended working policies? I don't know if that's allowed. I find HR don't always know & that its down to different business areas and business needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Swilly22


    Hi I stand to be corrected but no, I dont think they do. We are just a candidate filling the next vacancy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭eroc79


    I think an organisation can state specific skills they might like a candidate to have but at the end of the day they have to take next on the panel. There might be some wriggle room if there is a batch being assigned at the same time. Probably more chance on a Dublin panel but for the smaller counties I think the chance of skills matching is slim.



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