Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

We can agree on MUP.

An absolute disaster for someone who enjoys a few drinks in their own home.

The killing part is that even if we tried to we can't vote it out.

All the government and opposition parties voted for it.

Was thinking about this myself. Might bottled beers replace cans with a deposit more widely?

MUP in Scotland will rise from 50p to 65p in September. If the politicians vote for the change on 19 February. And the whole thing is not abolished in April. The increase is to make up for inflation since 2018 which makes 50p then worth only 41p now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68238846

So a tax on the poor basically (yes I know it's not a tax!!)

The price of Class A drugs will be even more appealing.

Retailers with a pub were not selling any product under MUP in 2021. MUP for a pint of stout, lager or cider is around €2. So they gained nothing from MUP. There is plenty of discussion about excise earlier in the thread. Without MUP the supermarkets would just keep doing their special offers, regardless of any excise increase.

This is from the Booze Megathread in Bargain Alerts 2014, referencing booze deals for St Patrick's Day. The discussion about a possible MUP had started a few years earlier, so they had begun to pull in their horns a bit. They stopped doing ads linking booze bargains to Child Benefit Day as well.

"Overall they are not 'great' offers though. I remember it was Tesco that went BOGOF on €24 slabs (circa 50c a can) one Paddy's day 5 or 6 years ago that started the backlash against the supermarket drink offers."

So they specifically were targeting cheap drink deals that people with less money were more likely to avail of, so it is as has been said many times a tax on the poor.

Do that sum again with BOGOF.

Advertising and labelling are a big part of what the legislation is about. That will probably be more important than MUP in the long run. It is not fair for those poor families to be targeted by the supermarkets with booze bargains. They need the money for food.

PUBLIC HEALTH (ALCOHOL) ACT 2018

An Act to provide for the minimum price per gram of alcohol, to confer the power on the Minister for Health to, by order, increase that price, to provide for the labelling of alcohol products including the inclusion of health warnings and the alcohol content and energy content of alcohol products on alcohol product containers, to provide that an applicant for the grant or renewal of a licence under the Licensing Acts 1833 to 2011 and an applicant for the grant or renewal of a licence under the Registration of Clubs Acts 1904 to 2008 shall notify the Health Service Executive of the application, to provide for restrictions in relation to the advertising and sponsorship of alcohol products, generally and in relation to children, to provide procedures in relation to the exposure for sale and advertising of alcohol products in specified licensed premises, to confer power on the Minister for Health to make regulations for the purpose of prohibiting or restricting the sale of alcohol products in certain circumstances, to provide for enforcement measures, to provide for the repeal of certain provisions of the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2003 and the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2008 , and to provide for related matters.

Yeah dxhound, maybe pay them in vouchers which can be used for food or electricity but not drink or Netflix. Their lives need controlling and how dare they attempt to have any fun whatsoever.

FFS

Also two slabs for €24, really?? If you have to pick the most extreme or made-up examples to prove your point, well, it says a great deal, just not in the way you think it does.

Only a few short years ago 24 can slabs were freely and readily available for €15 (and even @ €10 in places)

so €30 for 2 slabs and using the 10 off 50 voucher which was allowed back then brought it to €24.

Sounds great if ye live near a Tesco, closet to me is 89km.

Have no idea of Dublin prices-my local is €5.00-I doubt that the majority of Dublin pubs are getting €7-€8 a pint.

Outrageous but you are cherrypicking. A tourist hotspot which they can charge what they like, The Temple Bar Association or whatever the quango was called headed by Laura Magahy totally fecked up and ruined it. And I say this with sadness and remorse because in my working life, I and others tried to keep the original spirit of Temple Bar alive, WE FAILED. One of the big regrets of my professional life.

It proves that MUP has nothing to do with pub prices. MUP is around €2 for a pint. Publicans can charge what they like.

It has everything to do with pub prices, as you well know the original reasoning for MUP was to try push people back into pubs as they were losing customers due to the high prices they charged vs the off trade.