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Tesla Talk

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I would hope so, it is the recommended tyre pressure for Model 3..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,760 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Why would car manufacturers choose a cycle type that gave them poorer ranges?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Wouldn't look too much into this, Tesla over inflate tyres leaving the factory as they don't want any idle damage done whilst stationary before delivery from China. I doubt local SC will be going around calibrating each tyre before delivery

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Managing customer expectations. The Taycan is a great example of this. Regularly possible to exceed EPA range even on the highway doing 70 in the winter. In a Tesla you'd be lucky to get 80% of the EPA range in summer on a good day avoiding the highway.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Very much this, if you sell a car with 200km of range and the customer achieves 220km the customer is generally happy, if you sell the car with 250km and achieve 220km the customer will be disappointed. The EPA testing procedure allows a manufacturer adjustment factor, Porsche use this to reduce the sticker range of the car.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭McHardcore


    Yes, the Taycan can give over 60% more range in real-world driving than their advertised EPA figure https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html. Car manufacturers probably don't want the hassle or publicity of DOJ investigations into their advertised figures either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,760 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I agree it would be difficult to achieve in Ireland with wind and low temp, but last summer we managed 397km averaging 109kph going from 99% SoC to 14%. Adding on the supposed 11km buffer beyond 0% would give us 90% of the claimed 531 km EPA. That’s as close if not closer to claimed than anything I ever got in 18 years driving VAG diesels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I've no doubt you did, however it does not seem to be the experience of other owners - myself included - on a consistent and regular basis. Indeed the test cycle chosen by Tesla is done exactly for this reason, it gives higher range which, while still possible, is less reflective of the realistic and consistently obtainable range. Look at the Out Of Spec range tests on Teslas (and they own many Teslas so they are not biased) vs others. One that comes to mind immediately is the new IX5 M60 range tests. It comfortably beat the EPA range, not only for the M60 spec, but for the 40 spec (which is tested on aero wheels!). And it did this on a 70 mph loop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭jobrien19


    Is there anywhere I can find more information on the battery life expectancy beyond the mileage or 8 year warranty. I'm considering buying a M3 (or even 2020 or 2021 second hand) and holding onto it for a while and wondering am I likely to get much beyond the 8 years. We don't do a massive amount of driving so not sure we would even hit the KM limit before the 8 years is up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭wassie


    Theres a few studies around now that show a Tesla Model S battery should still have around 80% after 10 years. Just google "How Long Does a Tesla Battery Last"

    Heres a interesting article from Oct last year published by UK insurance firm Nimblefins analysing some US data.

    I think it would be safe to assume Tesla have only improved on their battery longevity for a car thats only a couple of years old.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    LFP batteries would generally have less degradation over time too so if you're looking at the 3 RWD as opposed to the 3 SR+ for instance that could make a difference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,217 ✭✭✭zg3409


    In many ways no one knows as exact chemistry has changed regularly over the years and it's unlikely that exact chemistry has been in use over 8 years. The manufacturer has probably performed some accelerated life testing such as thousands of charge discharges in a few weeks but age can also impact batteries.

    The real thing I would look at if you intend driving any EV out of battery warranty is if a cell fails can you get it replaced for a low cost or get a used complete battery at low cost.

    In the future it may be more difficult to open up and repair Tesla packs meaning "minor" single cell or poch failures may make a car scrap or at least low value scrap for parts except battery.

    I would typically say if driving any car 8/10+ years old keep an emergency fund of say 3000 euro for emergency repairs and or a replacement or temporary banger or hiring a car for a few weeks until your car is fixed.

    In reality batteries are designed to last well beyond warranty so it's unlikely to be an issue but no one knows for sure. Water ingress was main failure issue on older models.



  • Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Interesting video about typical Tesla issues (in Swedish with subtitles):




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Hitting 40k and she's getting a little skittish in the cold weather, think it's time for new tyres.

    Which model tyres comes supplied on the 18inch Aero's exactly? there's so many options for Pilot Sport 4's, it's a little confusing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Core6


    This is the tyre that's fitted as standard:-


    Michelin Pilot Sport 4

    235/45 ZR18 98Y XL, Acoustic, T0

    The 'TO' is Tesla Original fitment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭wassie


    Great Vid.

    • Not surprised TBH about the Model S given it is Tesla's first volume production car.
    • Can relate to the issue about the linkages - Ive had issues with steering/track rods, linkages and rear ball joints in my Fremont built M3. Mad squeaks also, some were linkages requiring replacement, other easily sorted with bushes being worn out.
    • Good to hear an independent expert note that quality in general though of the M3 (and MY by extension) though.

    @jobrien19 - you should watch from 31:15- Swedish mechanic that services 100-200 Teslas a year, discussed battery reliability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭wassie


    Also, if you have 19" then it would be 235/40 R19 for 19"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭jobrien19


    Thank you I'll give it a watch this evening. Happy that the feedback from other users here so far has been overwhelmingly positive at least and has eased my worries at least.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Just got a price from my local tyre centre for 900 for 4, fitted and alignments done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Core6


    That's a pretty good price.

    The online site I looked at prices them at €212 each and then extra for fitting, balancing and alignment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K



    Tesla has overnight cut the price of the M3 and MY in China. Bloomberg seems to think this will trigger price reductions in their other markets around the world.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭lfc200


    I think Tesla increased their prices in China when the highland launched so would be interesting to see is the pricing back to where it was 3 months ago or cheaper than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭sk8board


    It’ll be interesting to see if the financial results are poor for Tesla later, considering all the leaks today about this supposed $25k model coming in late 2025.

    theyre the masters of these leaks coming on the same day as results calls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,828 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    There's two chances a $25k Tesla will be for sale in 2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Redfox25




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,828 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I usually have two words for the second "none", but that's not very family friendly 😂



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Very mixed bag of results.

    Narrow misses across the board for EPS, margins and revenue.

    margins now 17% (but helped by temporary drops in materials costs, and also recognising a bunch of FSD revenue (??!!). Would be 14% otherwise.

    and maybe most odd of all, they failed to give growth guidance on 2024 - they’ve traded as a growth tech company their whole existence, but are only saying 2024 will be much lower growth than (already lowered) 2023.

    fun drinking game: search for ‘Ai and robotics” in the call transcript 😂, versus almost zero 12 months ago; but apparently a core focus now - he’s some chancer lads, honestly.

    shares down at $196 after hours, but actually holding up well considering. If they don’t give 2024 guidance shortly then that price will drop, considering they’re still trading at a huge P/E.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,828 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    @sk8board

    "and also recognising a bunch of FSD revenue (??!!)"

    " search for ‘Ai and robotics” in the call transcript 😂, versus almost zero 12 months ago; but apparently a core focus now - he’s some chancer lads, honestly."

    It looks like you are completely unware of (the significance of) the release of FSD beta 12 in the last few days?



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