slave1 wrote: »
I've always thought it was a natural extension for Toyota to purchase Tesla once their Market Value becomes affordable
thisonetaken wrote: »
Analyst downgrades and lower price targets are coming left right and centre, which normally means it’s a great time to buy but this time feels different, so I’m holding off unless it drops another 20 percent or so. Musks insistence that he didn’t need to raise capital when the share price was 350 could be a fatal decision for the company. It almost feels like the shorts lured him into a trap, they knew if they insisted the company needed to raise money that Musk would not do so out of sheer pig headedness. Then he was eventually forced to raise money when the share price was much lower. I used to be Musks biggest fan but it’s got to the stage where he has become a liability for the company.
Mupchease wrote: »
Everybody seams to forget Tesla isn’t just a company that sells cars.
I think this could be it for them
I don't see them having issues raising more money.
phantom_lord wrote: »
They just raised at 240 2.5 weeks ago, and it's trading 18x, with a result like that, who's going to want to get involved in another raise?
And the underwriters have all revised their price targets. You'd have to be a complete mug to go for a another round.
Zenith74 wrote: »
This is where I think these discussions tend to go a bit awry. Mike9832 and I are looking at the move from 240 to 190 and then looking at our online share portfolios every morning thinking whether it was a mistake etc etc. We're retail investors who care about the day-to-day stock movements.
The majority of the recent cash raise was for effectively 5 year bonds, those people don't care that the share price went down 2 weeks later, it's irrelevant. They'll have spent hundreds of thousands doing due diligence on the company, the market etc. before investing billions of dollars; they don't log into InteractiveInvestor 2 weeks later and think to themselves they got it all wrong, shoulda listened to @user1234 on Twitter instead of doing all that DD.
Big investors like this invest the way we all should, but generally don't: based on facts, no emotions and long-term. They spend huge sums of money on due diligence, they invest, and they forget about it for a period of years or until an event happens.
phantom_lord wrote: »
The bond is trading at <82, they care where that is.
Tesla survived on it's high share price and growth story, now both of those look doubtful. It's going to be a very very hard sell to do another raise just after such a failure of one. A deeply discounted raise might even put Musk in margin call territory. It's going to be tough to find underwriters willing to do a raise near this price.
Mike9832 wrote: »
AgreeApple or Google could make them incredible
Imagine the tech integration and media experience they could offer, flat screen's, media, maps, home features, autopilot ( once they figure it out in 10 years time )
An entry into a trillion dollar auto industry overnight
Doesn't need alot to make Tesla's incredible cars from where they are now, those companies have the resources and buying power for sure
Would hate to see the likes of VW or Toyota buy them, much prefer a new player like Apple, Google, Samsung etc
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jhegarty wrote: »
Not sure how long they have been up , but several new "coming soon" superchargers up on the map.
macnab wrote: »
samih wrote: »
TSLA is on a bit of a rally this week. I thought the stock price was right on Tuesday after the slide to $180ish and bought first time ever some shares. The stock has gained about 15 percent since then so looks like it was a good call. Should have bought more.
Apparently the long waited (in US) pickup truck will be revealed at the end of the month and the target price is $49k for a typical spec and less for a bare bones model.
jhegarty wrote: »
Official page : https://www.tesla.com/findus/supercharger/Ireland
sk8board wrote: »
The shares were up on Q2 deliveries hitting their target and slightly better than expected model 3 sales in the US (66,000).
The truck hype train is just that, hype. Tesla seem to announce another car every time the shares are tanking (new Model S in September?), but hype only provides a dead cat bounce until the next financials are published.
Deliveries are all that matters - to my mind the most critical issue is unit price. They are running out of fanboys and early adopters to sell to, hence the recent price drops and opening in new markets.
copeyhagen wrote: »
2015 used model s 85d or new model 3.
what would you go for an why...
personally I prefer the looks of the S, but the tech of the M3