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Overrated and disappointing films

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    Permission granted. Although they should have been better given that Ferrell and Wahlberg had such good chemistry in The Other Guys. They just struck me as lazy movies with zero script or jokes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭MfMan


    There's no need to whisper it, of course he is. Had a few good (rather iconic) roles back there in the 70s, in particular I thought Taxi Driver and The Deerhunter. He won a supporting Oscar for Godfather II, but I've often felt that his segment in it, important or not, frequently kills the flow and momentum of an all-time classic. As I've pointed out, Raging Bore was his nadir. Has been coasting along ever since on his name alone.

    I don't hold much truck with American method stars - De Niro, Pacino, Brando, Hoffman etc. Give me classically-trained British RADA actors instead Far, far better screen performers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I thought the The Banshees of Inisherin was fairly bland. Great acting by Brendan Gleeson but otherwise a boring story and I feel they could have done more with the sets and locations.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,032 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The chronological version of the Godfather trilogy makes his part look way more interesting and is a better cut of the film's overall.

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    When he appeared in We're no Angels with Sean Penn (1989), the jig was up. Terrible movie with an embarrassingly poor performance from De Niro. I saw that when it came out and even as a 16 year old, I thought "christ, I could do better than that".

    He also possesses zero charisma. When you compare him to the likes of Daniel Day Lewis, there's no contest.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,279 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's no secret that DeNiro's career took a bit of a nosedive after the 90's. But I think that's probably down to bad movie choices rather than being an "over rated" actor. He's excellent in certain roles, namely the brooding type with a bubbling intensity that threatens to boil over at any moment. But I've always felt that he can be out of his depth in other roles. However, he's definitely not alone there as the vast majority of Hollywood actors share that particular limitation. It's very rare that you can get any actor that can shift gears to any great extent.

    However, for a time he was a joy to watch. But his turn in 'Killers of the Flower Moon' is probably the best thing he's done in a long, long, time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Love Actually.

    My wife loves this film and I remember it being a big deal when I was a kid but Jesus it's terrible. I remember seeing Andrew Lincoln in Teachers and being impressed but here he is wholly overdoing it. And he's just one of a host of decent actors (Rickman, Grant, Firth, Nighy, Thompson) just mailing it in. Then there's the whole aspect of making a stereotypically "British" film for American audiences that rings incredibly hollow.

    I had a similar experience with Four Weddings and a Funeral so it may just be a problem I have with Richard Curtis (though I love Blackadder and Mr. Bean). I think the idea of romance from his generation is foreign to me and I just don't 'get' it.

    The whole film is too cliche and cutesy, even when I know its a film that I have to switch my brain off for.



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Blade Runner 2049 is good ... but I don't understand why it has to be so long ... the original Blade Runner was nearly an hour shorter ... the original was the best too ... in my top 10 films of all time ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,032 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Curtis hit a formula with 4 weddings of just getting mostly posh British "names" to act eccentric and play up to stereotypes and has pretty copied that since.

    Like most popular genres there are a significant group who won't get them at all. The Hugh Grant posh/flustered act annoys me and Nighy just plays his Still Crazy character in everything he has done since.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I could never understand how much acclaim this got as its a remake and the original did all the heavy lifting



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Absolutely. '2049' was a rather confusingly-plotted middling tribute act to a classic original.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Meh I think this is a little harsh - thought he was good in a Beautiful mind, Master & Commander, Cinderella Man, 3:10 to Yuma, American Gangster…admittedly these are all over 10 years old but they are all after Gladiator also



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Elvis... the Baz Luhrmann film.

    The hype was hysteric and the praise for Austin Butler as Elvis was stratospheric.

    I thought that the Lhurmann cinematic quirke effects distracted from the story and were not suited for the times being portrayed and I wasn't impressed with Butler's performance either. I have seen Elvis tribute act Ben Portsmouth play at The Olympia several times and he would blow Butler out of the water every day of the week, in terms of Elvis visual and audio performance.

    Anyone who said how good Butler was at playing Elvis, has not seen Ben Portsmouth.




  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭niallpatrick


    Avatar was just dances with wolves in space but I did admire the CGI, I didn't see it in 3D just 2D. Honestly CGI for me kills a good story if it's used just for the sake of it and it can backfire. John Carpenters 'the thing' was remade with updated practical visual effects meaning everything on screen wasn't CGI. A load of work and artistry went into it. The producers 'nah scrub the visuals make it CGI' and the film tanked straight to VOD or whatever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I haven't seen this in year but I like it ... it is also one of the films that inspired the conspiracy theories that the moon landings were fake and filmed by Kubrick ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    De Niro is a great actor. No other of his own or later generations that I've seen has the same ability to act in such a convincing manner just with his eyes alone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    I think that may be part of the reason why I don't rate him. Nowhere near enough range.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Ok. So you don't rate Robert De Niro as an actor, and claim he hasn't" enough range". This is the star of Mean Streets, Heat, The Godfather, Casino, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The Deer Hunter, The Untouchables, Goodfellas, A Bronx Tale, Cape Fear etc. etc. Has won the Oscar for best actor and best supporting actor.

    But you're a big fan of Back to The Future !!!😲



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Tippman24


    The War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise. After about twenty minutes I started to hope that the Martians would kill him so that I could go out of the Cinema.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,163 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Whats implausible about Jaws? Sharks attack people all the time, they will hang around if they are getting easily fed.

    Now the sequels were implausible but the original is untouchable. Watching that as a kid was absolutely terrifying.

    Super cast and just engaging from start to finish.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,032 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He is kinda the same person in a lot of those movies. Got a bit type cast with the crime and mob stuff.

    Taxi Driver and The Deer Hunter are great though. Never warmed to Raging Bull.

    Not really overrated because most people agree with you that it's shte.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,853 ✭✭✭billyhead


    It's the suspense and the soundtrack which are brilliant. Creates a terrifying atmosphere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,020 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Silent night, sky were hyping this one for Xmas, pile of shite joel kinneman is the star



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    Yes. that is correct.

    First off, I never said that I didn't rate De Niro as an actor. I merely suggested that he could be slightly over-rated (a personal opinion) and that he doesn't appear to have displayed a huge amount range across the various characters he's portrayed over the last few decades. There are plenty of other actors that I feel bring more to a role than De Niro has done.

    Secondly, I'm a fan of cinema in general and am more than capable of appreciating movies and actors across multiple genres. I don't think I'm alone in admitting to enjoy movies like Back to the Future and any of the other movies you mentioned above.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭John arse


    Tom " I do all my own stunts you know - I'm great aren't I " Cruise, aaaaaargh😤



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    The ending was certainly implausible. Sharks don't torpedo and half-devour tugboats nor does the largest great white sport the gargantuan dimensions of the robotic version in the film. Still, you can understand why there had to be such a dramatic finale .



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I feel the film tried to over tell the story and ended up confusing us ... the film was good but middling not exceptional ... the original was excellent and did things in less than 2 hours what takes going on 3 hours for 2049 to do ... the length of 2049 turned a lot of people off and killed off what could have been an interesting franchise ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    Agree, I was underwhelmed to be honest by this movie, some acting was fine but the way the overall piece was strung together didn’t do it for me …



  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    Jaws for me is a classic - some top drawer performances, excellent story line and characters. I agree the special effects were lame by today’s standards, but nearly 50 years later it still is a great, entertaining yarn, which is part of what movies are supposed to be … ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I am a big fan of Elvis ... him, Charlie Rich and Ray Charles are my all time fave singer ... I enjoyed the film Elvis but I found it limited ... it only focused on Elvis' relationship with Col Parker .... not on the story of Elvis ... I guess it did what it did well but I would prefer a more completist Elvis biopic ...

    I feel that a TV series detailing Elvis' life would have worked better than a film ... there needs to be more time because Elvis' story is not something that could be told in 2 hours or so ...



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